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"content": "There is Kshs45 million for each county government that enhances accountability for the results through an integrated performance management framework. Finally, there is Kshs60 million for each county government which has a Public Investment Management (PIM) or dashboard with citizen feedback mechanisms. Madam Temporary Speaker, I will say this very quickly as I conclude the moving of this very important Bill. I want to speak to two last points. The first one is books of accounts to reflect national Government transfers. We would like governors to know that each county treasury is obligated and shall reflect all the transfers of conditional allocations that will be made by the national Government to the respective county government in its books of accounts. There is a risk that this money, once it hits the county revenue account, a clever or shall I call him clever by a half, governor and his team can choose not to reflect. If they do so, let them know that there are consequences. Those consequences are in Clause 10, where we have provided that- “10. (1) Despite any other law, a serious or persistent noncompliance with this Act constitute offences of financial misconduct under section 197 of the Public Finance Management Act. (2) A person who commits an offence under sub section (1) is liable on conviction to a term of imprisonment not exceeding five years or to a fine not exceeding ten million shillings, or to both.’ Hon. Senators, many of you have either been amicus curiae to the County Public Accounts Committee and County Public Investment and Special Funds Committee or were Members of those Committees. You must have seen people who handle finances in the county governments feigning ignorance or silence when you are pinning down a governor. It is now clear in this law that they risk going to prison for five years or paying a fine of Kshs10 million or both. Finally, given that all politics is local, allow me to make one local statement. The First Schedule has shown the returns on court fines and the share of the 20 per cent The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "royalties. On behalf of the people of Kakamega County, I want to tell some people in the National Treasury that they should not take the entire populace of Kakamega County for fools. Why do I say this? They say the only money we collected through court fines in Kakamega and you have practiced law there, is only Kshs16,555. Sorry, I got it wrong; that in Kakamega you collect zero from court fines."
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"content": "The most ridiculous is that from mineral royalties, the people of Kakamega, the county of gold mining, our 20 per cent is Kshs16,555. If I go to Malinya, which is the gold mining market, and I go to Khayega and Kakamega Town the gold mining headquarters, the people who weigh the gold sometimes in the evening a woman who was just cleaning the soil, not doing mining, walks away with Kshs20,000, meaning the investor has gone away with a fortune. This is deliberate shortchanging of gold mining centres. We have gold in Rosterman and Sigalagala, Mwiritsia in Shinyalu, Masienze, Museno and Lirhembe, Shitoli, Malinya, Shikoe, Ishulu, Bushiangala and Shihaya. Please, this joke must stop. This is robbery of the people of Kakamega. I will go with this Bill to the Cabinet Secretary for Mining, hon. Joho, and tell him this has to stop. I invite the “ mamba eater,” the Senator for Tana River, Sen. Mungatana, to second."
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"content": "Madam Temporary Speaker, I take this opportunity to thank the honourable, indefatigable, legend Senator from the great county of Kakamega for ably moving this Bill before this House. This Bill has only 10 clauses. It is one of the most important Bills that defines the duties of this Senate of the Republic of Kenya. Some of the clauses are extremely important and we need to let the people know what these clauses stand for. I will not repeat that there are conditional and unconditional grants. Maybe I will come back to it, but I wanted to emphasize on Clause 7. Clause 7 talks about the Cabinet Secretary who is supposed to publish the entire quarterly report of what monies they have transferred conditionally in the whole Republic of Kenya to the various counties. It is not a secret anymore and we want Kenyan to start looking at these figures, so that people can see what is happening in their counties. Believe you me, even though you live here in Nairobi, the day you die, we are going to hire a bus and sing songs and take you to Tana River if you came from there or any other county. You will probably be ferried by bus or some vehicle. It is critical for people who are living in Nairobi, Mombasa and these big counties because of work, to know that every quarter, there is some money that is coming to your county. Take time to know. It is not proper for our professionals to only keep quiet and then start criticizing leaders, saying, “what is the Senator doing?” “What is happening in my county?” This is when we have already executed our duty and sent this money and a report has been published. I want to use the Floor of this House to tell fellow professionals, colleagues and citizens who are listening to us, that it is not enough for you to just contribute to harambees for sending children to school and harambees that are in your village that involve construction of a classroom or the church and you say you are doing well. You must directly get involved to know, when these funds are transferred, what is it that they The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "are doing? It is important for us to be involved with what is happening on the countryside. Madam Temporary Speaker, I would like to also speak to Clause 10. Clause 10 talks about criminalization of serious or persistent non-compliance by the officers who are obligated to carry out certain duties. When I am talking about this, specifically I am on to the officers in the National Treasury. Nobody has ever been charged under these sections, yet we know many times there has been persistent and serious violations or delays when it comes to transferring funds from the National Treasury to our County Revenue Funds. Madam Temporary Speaker, it is so sad that we pass law, but when it comes to executing these laws, it is just another story. It is not taken seriously. It pains me because just the other day, two days ago, there was a big headline that our sister House, the National Assembly Committee of Education, discovered from the Auditor-General that Kshs3.7 billion had been lost to ghost allocations, over a period of four years. The news is gone, because in Kenya it is a 24-hour cycle. Today people are excited, tomorrow they forget about it. Then what? There is no Minister who has been fired or a Principal Secretary (PS) who has been called to account. Nothing is happening. When it comes to financial issues, it is like even when we have put Clause 10 here to criminalize bad or gross or persistent violations of the provisions by officers in the National Treasury, nothing happens. We have seen it in the National Assembly that nothing happens. Madam Temporary Speaker, even when we come here in the Senate Public Accounts Committee, where we have even the Ethics and Anti-Corruption Commission (EACC) sitting in our Senate Public Accounts Committee, even our Chairman saying in other jurisdictions, you, Mr. Governor, should not have left these pressings, you would be going down to jail or to answer charges, with EACC sitting there, there is not even a bother to take a statement. Nothing happens. This is the attitude that Kenyans are getting used to when it comes to financial matters. No wonder, it has become a culture now that people aspire into Government offices, not so that they can help our Kenyan population---"
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"content": "ADJOURNMENT"
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"content": " Hon. Senators, it is now 6.30 p.m, time to adjourn the Senate. Sen. Mungatana, you have a balance of 12 minutes to continue seconding the Bill when we resume. The Senate, therefore, stands adjourned until tomorrow, Thursday, 17th July, 2025, at 2.30 p.m."
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"content": "The Senate rose at 6.30 p.m."
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"content": "The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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