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"content": "On a point order, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. Is the Assistant Minister telling us that when such a process is being used that he can ascertain whether it is harmful or not? We have all heard about toys that are made using dangerous chemicals. When children are playing with them, for example, they touch their mouth and chest with them, they develop complications. Is he in order to say those particles could not also be in the faded jeans?"
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"content": "I think that is what the Assistant Minister is asserting. Indeed, the process itself is harmful, but the final product itself is not harmful. So, do you have something to counteract that?"
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"content": "Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, it is clear that it is the particles that actually will cause the harm. The Assistant Minister was challenged to prove what technology was used to ensure that there are no residues remaining in the cloth. I would like to demonstrate to him how some people will want to deal with maybe even washing their clothes. They would hold them and do something like this."
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"content": "At that stage, where is the evidence that the residues are not getting into the lungs of the consumer, or could he give me his coat, I show him what they do?"
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"content": "Clearly, Mr. Assistant Minister, you, probably, need an engineer near you to be able to propound on sandblasting. Indeed, those of you with engineering background know the harmful part of it, and the part that essentially is not harmful. However, proceed and explain that."
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"content": "If you do not, the Chair is prepared to allow hon. Kinyanjui to assist you in this."
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"content": "He is a consumer!"
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"content": "He is also in charge of many engineers. So, he may have something very useful to contribute."
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"content": "Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I really do appreciate what the hon. Ruto is saying. But again, I want to just invite the House to think about, for example, when you are building a house and you are painting it, the fundi will sand the walls and wear masks because that action creates dust. That is what is happening. When the person who is working on these jeans - not washing - when they are using a compressor to spray sand on clothing, as that sand is being so applied, you create dust, and that is what the problem is. Thereafter, once the garments have been washed, there cannot be dust in them."
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