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"content": "Madam Temporary Deputy Speaker, I beg to ask the Minister of State for Provincial Administration and Internal Security the following Question by Private Notice. (a) Under what circumstances were Messrs. Yusuf Godana, Hassan Sheikh Birik Mohamed and James Waweru killed in Lafey District on 27th October, 2011? (b) Can the Minister confirm that the officers met their death while on duty? (c) What assistance did the Government extend to the families of the deceased during the burials?"
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"content": " Madam Temporary Deputy Speaker, this Question had been deliberated on, on the Floor of this House, and there was information which I had been directed to bring. The Ministry of Education is yet to furnish us with that information. In the meantime, I had suggested that the Question be deferred. As a matter of fact, it was supposed to be answered on Thursday and not today. However, now that it has been put on the Order Paper, I would request the indulgence of the Chair that our Ministry be allowed to write to the Ministry of Education in order for them to answer this Question. This is because the Question does not concern my Ministry at all. Because of their delay in furnishing us with the information, I suggest that we re-route the Question to the Ministry of Education."
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"content": " I happen to have been on the Chair that day and I ruled that this Question be on the Order Paper today. This information is on the HANSARD. Clearly, you had been asked to consult with the Minister for Education and then come up with a comprehensive answer that addresses both the security and education concerns. I am reading from the HANSARD."
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"content": " Madam Temporary Deputy Speaker, if you read the same HANSARD, you will see that my argument was based on the fact that I had already dealt with the security issue. What is now remaining is the fact that the Ministry of Education was alleging that it had paid for the coffin which cost about Kshs20,000, yet there was evidence to the contrary. The hon. Member, who is a friend of mine, has receipts showing"
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"content": "2 Wednesday, 14th December, 2011(A)"
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"content": "that it is the family members of the deceased who paid for the coffin. The Ministry of Education is unable to furnish us with details. That is why I was suggesting that we re- route this Question to that Ministry. They are running away from their responsibility!"
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"content": "On a point of order, Madam Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, this Question has now appeared for the fifth time on the Order Paper. Every time the Assistant Minister is giving excuses and avoiding answering the Question. This is an emotive matter. It is about the death of citizens and how the Government has handled the people. The Chair directed the Assistant Minister to get in touch with the Ministry of Education and then came back here to answer this Question comprehensively. Why is he giving himself another directive of going to consult instead of obeying? Is he in order?"
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"content": " Madam Temporary Deputy Speaker, ordinarily, I do not fear answering Questions, but I have to be factual in my responses. If I am waiting for documents from the Ministry of Education and they are not able to provide those documents, the only fair thing to be done is to re-route the Question to the Ministry of Education."
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"content": "On a point of order, Madam Temporary Deputy Speaker. You have heard the Assistant Minister imply that he has no capacity to answer this Question. Should he not have referred the Question to the Prime Minister’s Office, if he and the Minister for Education were incapable of answering it? Is he in order to mislead the House for the last two weeks that he cannot answer the Question?"
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"content": " Your point has been made!"
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