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"content": "Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, I want to thank the Minister for that answer. However, I also want to say that this answer sounds too theoretical and yet I really wanted the specifics. In part “c” of the Question where I am asking for the community’s involvement, could the Minister specifically tell me how many community"
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"content": "33 Wednesday, 14th December, 2011(A)"
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"content": "associations have been involved, which ones they are and how much money has been disbursed to them?"
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"content": "Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, we have challenges in this area to the extent that we have not formed the community forest associations. My officers are on the ground and it is now that we are putting these associations in place. First of all, a community forest association must be registered and there is a process. This process is ongoing and eventually, what we want to see is the community to be fully involved in the conservation of the ecosystem. They should also be able to profit from being close to the ecosystem in terms of carbon credit, grazing and policing the ecosystem."
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"content": "Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, I do not know why the Government likes complicating issues. The issue of carbon credit is now known all over the world, especially in developing countries like ours, where people who are protecting forests are getting a lot of money. Now we are talking about the people in Mau Forest. Why can the Minister not find an easier and simpler route because what he is describing seems to be taking long and is bogged down by bureaucracy and yet we want the people within Mau to protect the forest? Why does he not find an easier way to compensate and allow this carbon credit because we are getting the carbon credit? Where it goes is the big question mark. When will it reach the people without all these bureaucracies?"
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"content": "Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, since we are a Government institution, unfortunately, we have to abide by some of the bureaucracies. I know that carbon credits are already in this country especially in the Mau area. There are farmers who are already getting money from carbon sequestration. However, you know that the field of carbon trade is indented by foreign institutions and some of them are there to exploit our people. So, as a Government, we are very careful on whom we should trade with. The process in Mau, in my belief, will be easier than with individual farmers in that, right across the ecosystem, we have indigenous forests. For indigenous forests it is very easy to craft a process of carbon sequestration with a credible institution. We are trying to find out which credible institution we can work with. This is because, as you know, with carbon credits, indigenous forest is the best. It is easier in Mau Forest because most of the forest is indigenous."
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"content": "Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, the Minister has talked about a community forest association which has not yet been created. Could he explain what process he has initiated to prepare communities so as to participate in the formation of community forest associations?"
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"content": "Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, my officers are on the ground and they are getting members registered. Since the hon. Member is very keen, I would like to work with him and make sure that this process is fast-tracked. We have initiated and launched many community forest associations around Kakamega, Mt. Elgon, Mt. Kenya and Meru areas. The community forest associations are already there and are registered. We want to register these community forest associations around our biggest ecosystem which is Mau. I would like to work with the Member of Parliament. Indeed, if he is prepared we can have a meeting in the area to sensitize farmers and those living near the forest to make sure that this process is ongoing."
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"content": " Last question, Dr. Kones!"
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