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"content": " Mr. Speaker, Sir, I will take the information, but let me just finish what I am saying. What I am presenting here would, in view of what hon. Waititu was saying in respect of land that he alleged belonged to a company that is associated with the Prime Minister, confirm that there are many plots in that area belonging to many Kenyans. If we were to make revelation of who owns those plots, this would touch the high, the mighty and the low in Kenya. However, the point is not about ownership. The point is about compliance with The Civil Aviation Act. That was the basis upon which the demolitions were carried out. Mr. Speaker, Sir, this matter was put before the Committee very well and that is why the Committee went in-camera, so that some of the presentations could be given to them."
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"content": "Hon. Waititu, you may now give your information."
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"content": " Mr. Speaker, Sir, with all due respect, I have a map here, which represents the ground where settlements were demolished. The whole map was verified by the KAA in front of the Joint Committee as we went round. Only 10 per cent of the demolitions were carried out on the flight path. The remaining 90 per cent of the demolitions were carried out outside the flight path, and they were done selectively. There were some buildings that were left whereas the informal settlements were demolished. Our argument is why settlements that were outside the flight path were demolished. I have the map with me here."
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"content": "Order! Order! Hon. Waititu, you are an Assistant Minister. Therefore, you serve in the same Cabinet as hon. Orengo. Are you giving him information or lodging an argument? You have said “our argument is---“ You cannot argue with your colleague in the Cabinet! In fact, the right place for you to do so would be in the Cabinet."
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"content": " Mr. Speaker, Sir, I might have used the wrong word but the information I wanted to give to my colleague is that there were houses that were outside the flight path, which were demolished. We were surprised that those houses were demolished since they were not on the flight path. So, we generally concluded that there was some influence. The Minister has actually concurred with me that there are “very big names” of people who have plots there."
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"content": "Very well. Minister for Lands, do you accept that information from your colleague, that you discriminated even as you took the demolition action?"
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"content": " Mr. Speaker, Sir, there was no discrimination. In fact, if you look at the map I have produced, it shows where the actual demolitions were done. They area is marked in red. It is a wide area. The understanding should be that a flight path is like a funnel. It is wide when you approach it. It narrows as you go towards the landing area. So, we are not talking about a rectangular area. We are talking about a funnel. You will find that at the end of the day; the demolitions were done in consonance with the security concerns. The most important thing was the security concern and compliance with the Civil Aviation Act."
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"content": "(Several hon. Members stood up in their places)"
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"content": "Order! Order, Member for Ikolomani! Order, hon. Musyimi! The rest of you will have to wait and raise the points that you want clarified. I am going to permit that for a few minutes. Let us take information."
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"content": "Minister, do you want information from the Member for Bondo?"
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