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"content": "Mr. Speaker, Sir, I would like the Minister for Lands to tell us whether it is true that the demolitions were not because of the flight paths, but to create vacant positions for the “who is who” in this country in terms of those plots."
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"content": "Mr. Speaker, Sir, I expected the Minister really to focus on the issues that were raised by Mr. Waititu. From yesterday’s HANSARD, it is clear to me that Mr. Waititu did allege that he had title deeds showing that and I want to quote:- “The ones that the big people were the ones who instigated demolitions outside the flight path and majority of them in Embakasi were very surprised to see that some Members of Parliament were involved in the demolitions.” Further down, the Assistant Minister alleged that there are people who own a plot there of almost 10 acres and cited the Prime Minister for owing almost 10 acres which was demolished. I am raising this because if you go further ahead, you will realize that Dr. Khalwale relied on that information to ask the Chair that surely Kenyans want to know whether their own Prime Minister is involved in the culture of impunity and corruption to the extent that poor Kenyans were conned by his company. “Madam Temporary Deputy Speaker, make the determination and tell us whether it is authentic before we proceed.” I expected the Minister to clarify the size of land that is associated with the Prime Minister or his company or the company he resigned from and to tell this House when this land was acquired, if it was acquired in 1994 when the Prime Minister was in the Opposition and could not influence any allocation and whether it was actually bought from hon. Waruru Kanja who acquired this land in 1989. He should also clarify to us any connection between an individual in the name of the Prime Minister owning land and the demolitions taking place at Syokimau or if this was politics, this country needs to know. Clearly---"
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"content": "Order, Member for Gwassi! You have made your point. Now what you are doing is overdoing it. You may want to stop there. Proceed, Mr. Minister!"
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"content": " Mr. Speaker, Sir, most of the issues that have been raised by the hon. Member for Gwassi, I am still on my feet and I will deal with them, if I may use the word, “perpendicularly” and make sure that every information in relation to what Mr. Waititu brought before the House is addressed comprehensively in my response. However, I cannot use this opportunity to merely lay down these documents and say what they say to bring points of argument that came in the course of the debate. There is the clarification sought by the Member for Ol Kalou where he is saying that there is a building right in the flight path. I need to look at those documents because I have not seen what he is talking about. But according to the maps that we have, and I think I am making this point for the eighth time, the buildings are not necessarily of concern to the aviation authorities or to the Government because they are on the flight path. If they are adjacent or near the flight path and they do not conform with the Civil Aviation Act and can compromise air traffic and the safety of passengers and national security, there are provisions in the Civil Aviation Act on how to deal with those buildings. There are also buildings within the airport that are owned by the Civil Aviation Authority. I do not know whether the building he is talking about is such a building, but I am merely speculating. But if that is brought to my attention, I can answer that question specifically. As to the issue of “who is who”, every Kenyans is a “who is who”. There are no first class and second class citizens, but I am prepared, given about four or five days, to give a full list of those who own property. I want to go beyond just talking about this small area called Kyang’ombe. I think that this House needs to know where the rain started beating us. Anybody who owns land around some of these areas which are of security concern to this country, this House should know who were able to have land allocated to them in areas where in the first place those pieces of land were not available for alienation."
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"content": "The example that I will show is the second title deed that was produced by hon. Wavinya Ndeti. You can see clearly in that title and the Deed Plan that, indeed, there was an attempt to excise part of Jomo Kenyatta International Airport (JKIA) and that is why-- -"
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"content": " On a point of information, Mr. Speaker, Sir."
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"content": "Minister, do you want information from Ms. Wavinya Ndeti?"
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"content": " Yes, Mr. Speaker, Sir."
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"content": " Mr. Speaker, Sir, I would like to thank the Minister for, at least, accepting that something was going wrong somewhere. We, however, need to go back to the ground. A total of 225 hectares of land have been taken from the airport land. That is where you find all those godowns a long Mombasa. It is good for the Minister to go to the ground and see for himself instead of people just telling him from the office."
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"content": " I think that information is available from the titles that I have produced. The Kenya Airports Authority (KAA), in appropriate circumstances, has leased part of their airport land to essential services like Nairobi Airport Services (NAS). It has been allocated land. The Kenya Police has land within the KAA land. Those leases were all registered under the mother title. They are all there. In fact, they are so many. They include the World Duty Free. All those leases are contained in this title. As relates to Bandani Estate in Kisumu, let me say this: I want to share this with my colleagues in the Cabinet. It is wrong for any reason to carry out evictions contrary to what is laid down in the Constitution. I am pleading with the Minister in charge of internal security that, from now on, we should coordinate these matters together, so that the kind of demolitions that have been carried out in the thick of the night--- There is a time when I used to say in this House that the Government at that time would work during the day and go to sleep at night. Those were those days. But it looks like in some instances, especially in carrying out evictions, the Government is actually very active at night. I think decency requires that no such evictions are carried out at unearthly hours. Soon, we will be putting before the Cabinet a Bill that we have drafted, which shows a clear protocol on how to carry out evictions in a manner consistent with the Constitution. Mr. Speaker, Sir, the point made by the Chairman of the Joint Committee--- I want to thank Mr. Mutava Musyimi because largely, if you read the Report, I do not think I find anything objectionable in the Report. If you look at it in an objective manner, we should look at what kind of circumstances to come out with a clear framework of dealing with what has been called the rot in the Ministry of Lands. I accept that. What I am saying in regard to what he was saying--- He said: “We went into camera because of the Moi Airbase.” It is true that we went into camera because of Moi Airbase. But we continued to be in camera for the entire sitting, including when evidence was being adduced on other matters which had nothing to do with the Moi Airbase. I think that is factual. Mr. Speaker, Sir, Mr. Lessonet talked about the issue of demolitions and whether they are going to continue. I think I have made the point. The Attorney-General actually made this point before the Committee. If one may say lawyers think alike, I think this is such a case. I can assure the House that I am going to ask for the Attorney-General’s support to pilot those eviction guidelines, although it is a law and order issue. It is not a land issue. I am going to ask him, together with the Minister for Justice, National Cohesion and Constitutional Affairs, that we should very quickly have this Bill before the House for discussion and enactment. Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir."
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