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            "content": " Your time is up. Proceed, Sen. Farhiya."
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            "content": "Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir, for allowing me to contribute. I also thank Sen. (Prof.) Kamar for taking up this Petition because, seriously, where will people run to? I mean, how can the Government block everything of this cooperative society? For example, when there was an evaluation and they wanted to sell the building so that they settle their bills, there was an intervention, but they hurriedly sold the building. This Senate should know who has the interest in this building."
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            "content": "The other issue is that as the CS is summoned, the university must also be summoned. If they deducted money from the employees, why are they keeping it? The university should be declared insolvent. Why are they not able to meet their obligation? In my view, there is the fact that someone is refusing to submit deductions and the fact that when people make remedial measures to stop the SACCO from being liquidated, yet someone else does not want to renew their license. Who is this person who is interested in the SACCO and has high linkages that nobody can touch? Whatever that is going on is illegal. As the Senate, we need to sympathize with those people who have put their savings in SACCOs to save for their future, yet they are being blocked from everywhere. If we are supposed to help somebody, this is the time, so that it is a lesson to everyone else. Mr. Speaker, Sir, I also join you in welcoming students from Tangaza University College and members of staff from the East African Legislative Assembly (EALA)."
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            "content": " Order Senators, there is a lot of movement. Conclude, Sen. Farhiya."
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            "content": "Mr. Speaker, Sir, this is the right time to tame corruption at whatever level that it is. I thank you."
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            "content": "Mr. Speaker, Sir, I rise to support the Petition by my good friend, Sen. (Prof.) Kamar. I was going through the Co-operative Societies Act. When I was listening keenly to the Petition as it was being read, I was a little bit confused. I would like clarification on who appointed the liquidators. This is because the Co-operative Societies Act is very clear on liquidation of certain societies. It provides that the Cabinet Secretary may order, publish in the Gazette, appoint a person to be the liquidator of a society, or that has had its registration cancelled, or is exemption receded under Part III, or has otherwise ceased to exist. So, it will be important for us to get the clarification of who appointed the liquidator. Secondly, the CS has a very important role. I was saddened to hear that he denied audience to the members of a society. This begs the question; why do people come together to form a SACCO? It is because they want to better their lives. It is because it is an easier way in a country like Kenya where interest rates have sky-rocketed, where the members can get easy cash or money available. I am sure most Members of Parliament (MPs) belong to a SACCO. This is a very important matter. As the defenders of the counties and the people of Kenya, we must take action. Mr. Speaker, Sir, I appeal to you that when you direct this to a committee, it is imperative that the CS be asked to stop, because there are procedures laid out in the Co- operative Societies Act that must be followed."
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            "content": "The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate."
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            "content": "Thirdly, I am also perturbed to hear that the university failed to remit the contributions of the members. Even though we are going after the Ministry, the CS and the financial institution, even the members---"
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