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"speaker_name": "Hon. Patrick Mariru",
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"content": " Hon. Kioni, Members are not difficult. They are just very keen on what you are saying."
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"content": " Political parties will still take their percentage because it will be based on the number of votes a party gets. So, it does not take away anything a political party gets from the Fund."
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"content": "The amendment also allows any other political party that has qualified to have Members in Parliament to get some funding. We have political parties with 18 Members and others with 100 Members of the County Assembly (MCAs) but they do not get any funding from the national kitty because we only said the party can only benefit from the money if it gets 3 per cent of the total vote, which is a good thing. I know the big boys here will be very happy to continue with that arrangement but it does not grow the political and democratic space. If we do not have more parties out there for persons with special interests like the marginalised, minorities, youth and others, we will not be able to bring them on board but if we allow parties to field them including women, that way we will get them. That is only possible if we fund the political parties. We have political parties that immediately after an election die. An individual cannot sustain a political party through his pocket. This constitutional kitty was meant to benefit our democratic space."
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"content": "Hon. Temporary Deputy Chairman, I ask Members to support the amendment. You may think you are strong today, but wait until you are hit out there and you need support. You need these parties elsewhere. Leader of the Majority Party, you know these positions do not exist for ever. Please, provide for what you may need to use tomorrow. The person who is wise in making law is that who makes law for his enemy."
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"content": " Hon. Members, there seems to be active passion around what Hon. Kioni has said."
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"content": "(Question of the amendment proposed)"
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"content": "Let us start with the Leader of the Majority Party. I would like to give a chance to a few other Members, especially those who have not spoken to the amendment."
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"speaker_name": "Garissa Township, JP",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Aden Duale",
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"content": " Hon. Temporary Deputy Chairman, I thought Hon. Kioni was in the 10th Parliament when we enacted the Political Parties Act that created the Political Parties Fund. The essence or objective of the Fund was to kill briefcase parties owned by individuals. Today, I confirm that the headquarters of ODM and those of Jubilee Party are similar to the headquarters of the Conservative Party and Labour Party in London. I have been there."
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"speaker_name": "Garissa Township, JP",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Aden Duale",
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"content": "Let me give you a scenario: there is a possibility that a president can have less MPs, less governors and less senators because maybe all his candidates took the second position but he has no Members of Parliament here. It happened in the 10th Parliament. Kibaki was the President. I was in ODM. He had only 48 MPs. The Party of National Unity (PNU) had only 48 MPs while The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposes only. Acertified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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"speaker_title": "Hon. Aden Duale",
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"content": "ODM had 106 MPs. Let me go on record. Coalition is different. Hon. Mbui is bringing an amendment because he is in a coalition but the money belongs to ODM. The money on our side belongs to Jubilee. Whether you have five MPs, six MPs, you are a squatter. You can only get money on our mercy. We must go the way of the United States of America (USA) and other developed democracies. This country will be more stable and parties will have discipline if we have two major parties."
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