{"count":1608389,"next":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/?format=json&page=137537","previous":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/?format=json&page=137535","results":[{"id":1391771,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1391771/?format=json","text_counter":3112,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Sen. Cheptumo","speaker_title":"","speaker":{"id":13591,"legal_name":"Cheptumo William Kipkiror","slug":"cheptumo-william-kipkiror"},"content":"Now, if he did not do so, my question is this. The trees that you claim to belong to you and the trees that you planted for your brother, the ones that were being cut and harvested before the police came, can you lay a claim on those trees as Reuben?"},{"id":1391772,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1391772/?format=json","text_counter":3113,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Mr. Reuben Monda","speaker_title":"","speaker":null,"content":"Sorry?"},{"id":1391773,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1391773/?format=json","text_counter":3114,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Sen. Cheptumo","speaker_title":"","speaker":{"id":13591,"legal_name":"Cheptumo William Kipkiror","slug":"cheptumo-william-kipkiror"},"content":"Can you claim that those trees belong to you? That is a critical question and I think Sen. Wambua was trying to raise that issue before. We should be clear that Reuben, being a witness in this case, really had a claim on a portion of the trees that were planted in his father’s land."},{"id":1391774,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1391774/?format=json","text_counter":3115,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Mr. Reuben Monda","speaker_title":"","speaker":null,"content":"I said that the trees belong to our father because my brother and I do not have a title deed. It is not our father who showed us that you will be digging here and there. It is my brother and I who agreed that he would be digging on one side, and I dig on the other side. I came back after working in Central Province, Meru and Embu and then I went back to Kisii after a long time. When I was at Kiamokama Tea Factory from 2003 to 2005 that is when I started planting trees from that side where I used to dig a long time ago. Then I realized because that time there were no issues with my brother. I asked him, “since you were doing this other side, give me money to buy you the seedlings.” He did not give me. Then I bought the seedlings and planted them. Then I told him to give me Kshs6,300. I have said here that the issue of trees is almost a non-issue in this matter. Let us concentrate on the abuse of office and misuse of power. That is the main reason I came here. On the issue of trees, even if we argue here, we will not come to a conclusion."},{"id":1391775,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1391775/?format=json","text_counter":3116,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Sen. Veronica Maina","speaker_title":"The Temporary Speaker","speaker":null,"content":" Thank you, Reuben. Hon. Senators, we have now come to the conclusion. Counsels for the County Assembly of Kisii, I believe that is your last witness."},{"id":1391776,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1391776/?format=json","text_counter":3117,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Mr. Ndegwa Njiru","speaker_title":"The Counsel for the County Assembly","speaker":null,"content":" Yes. Madam Temporary Speaker, to the extent that the summons was issued. The directions of the Chair were that the witness will be led tomorrow. We then only have one witness remaining pursuant to the summons. As for today, Madam Temporary Speaker, we can rest at this time."},{"id":1391777,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1391777/?format=json","text_counter":3118,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Sen. Veronica Maina","speaker_title":"The Temporary Speaker","speaker":null,"content":" Hon Senators, the session will continue tomorrow. There was direction that the witness will come at 12.00 p.m. When we resume tomorrow morning, we will have evidence by the Deputy Governor. The team from the Deputy Governor's side can prepare for that at 9.00 a.m. when we resume."},{"id":1391778,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1391778/?format=json","text_counter":3119,"type":"scene","speaker_name":"","speaker_title":"","speaker":null,"content":"(Loud consultations)"},{"id":1391779,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1391779/?format=json","text_counter":3120,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Sen. Veronica Maina","speaker_title":"The Temporary Speaker","speaker":null,"content":"Hon. Senators, please, be patient."},{"id":1391780,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1391780/?format=json","text_counter":3121,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Sen. Veronica Maina","speaker_title":"The Temporary Speaker","speaker":null,"content":"The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."}]}