{"count":1608389,"next":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/?format=json&page=137612","previous":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/?format=json&page=137610","results":[{"id":1392521,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1392521/?format=json","text_counter":433,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Marakwet West, Independent","speaker_title":"Hon. Timothy Kipchumba","speaker":null,"content":" Hon. Temporary Chairman, I have heard the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Finance saying that this provision precludes county governments from making legislations. The provision says nothing in this Act shall preclude county governments from enacting legislation. This means that county governments will make legislation on the Affordable Housing Programme, which in my opinion would bring an issue of conflict. We have a legal framework in this country to provide a uniform law for provision of the Affordable Housing Programme. If we allow each county government to make a law on this subject, we shall have 47 different Acts of county assemblies on this subject. Therefore, I have an issue with it. Probably, he should clarify."},{"id":1392522,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1392522/?format=json","text_counter":434,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Hon. David Ochieng’","speaker_title":"The Temporary Chairman","speaker":null,"content":" Clarify, Hon. Temporary Chairman. It is quite straightforward."},{"id":1392523,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1392523/?format=json","text_counter":435,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Molo, UDA","speaker_title":"Hon. Kimani Kuria","speaker":null,"content":" Hon. Temporary Chairman, Hon. Toroitich read correctly that nothing in this Act shall preclude county governments from enacting legislation relating to affordable housing in the counties. For example, an Appropriations Bill by any county assembly to allocate funds for establishing whether it is institutional housing or affordable housing for the counties, would be a piece of legislation emanating from a county assembly anywhere in the country. There is nothing that would stop any county assembly in this country from making such a programme. It means that this Affordable Housing Programme and the institutional housing programme being enacted at the national Government level can be done in the counties. We have seen several counties already doing it, and therefore, there is nothing out of order."},{"id":1392524,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1392524/?format=json","text_counter":436,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Hon. David Ochieng’","speaker_title":"The Temporary Chairman","speaker":null,"content":" Just to guide Member for Marakwet West…"},{"id":1392525,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1392525/?format=json","text_counter":437,"type":"scene","speaker_name":"","speaker_title":"","speaker":null,"content":"(Hon. (Dr) Ojiambo Oundo spoke off the record)"},{"id":1392526,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1392526/?format=json","text_counter":438,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Hon. David Ochieng’","speaker_title":"The Temporary Chairman","speaker":null,"content":"Hon. Oundo, you have just spoken to this. The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor"},{"id":1392527,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1392527/?format=json","text_counter":439,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Hon. David Ochieng’","speaker_title":"The Temporary Chairman","speaker":null,"content":"The county assemblies can make laws on anything devolved as long as they do not contradict the national laws. Where they contradict, the national law takes precedence. That is the law we passed in this Assembly. Member for Seme."},{"id":1392528,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1392528/?format=json","text_counter":440,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Seme, ODM","speaker_title":"Hon. (Dr) James Nyikal","speaker":null,"content":" Hon. Temporary Chairman, if we have (g) which provides for counties to make laws, yet funding for all these things is coming from the levy, does it mean that as they make the laws they must refer to the national body? It would then be like what we have here whenever we have the Finance Bill. This money will not be given through the division of Revenue Bill. It is a levy on its own and a law is being made at the county level. What will be the process, particularly with regard to financing?"},{"id":1392529,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1392529/?format=json","text_counter":441,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Hon. David Ochieng’","speaker_title":"The Temporary Chairman","speaker":null,"content":" Hon. Dido Raso."},{"id":1392530,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1392530/?format=json","text_counter":442,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Saku, UDA","speaker_title":"Hon. Ali Raso","speaker":null,"content":" Hon. Temporary Chairman, this Clause tells us that you are not going to prevent the county from taking the initiative in terms of establishing housing units. The Hon. Member for Seme is saying that this thing is domiciled at the national level and patented. However, that is not the case. If Marsabit County, for instance, wishes to come up with 2,000 housing units above what has been allocated or given by the national Government, let it be so that the county can have the freedom of action."}]}