{"count":1608389,"next":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/?format=json&page=137828","previous":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/?format=json&page=137826","results":[{"id":1394681,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1394681/?format=json","text_counter":399,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Nominated, ODM","speaker_title":"Hon. Irene Mayaka","speaker":null,"content":" Hon. Temporary Speaker, in law, we have the Articles that provide for the removal from office of public and State officers. However, this Bill does not speak to that. For example, removal of a CAS from office is not mentioned anywhere. I hope the Chairman of the Departmental Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs Committee is listening to this and together with his committee they will take that into consideration. The other thing I want to speak to is the duplication of responsibilities that are outlined for the CAS position. On liaising with Parliament, every ministry in this country has a liaison person to Parliament. Why are we duplicating this role? We have even mentioned that there will be a liaison person to the county government. Part of the memorandum of objects and reasons clearly states that this Bill does not affect the functions and powers of county governments yet it says that one of the roles of a CAS is to liaise with county governments. So, what is going to inform this role in that sense if this Bill already says that they work with them? In essence, what we are trying to create is an additional personal assistant to the cabinet The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor"},{"id":1394682,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1394682/?format=json","text_counter":400,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Nominated, ODM","speaker_title":"Hon. Irene Mayaka","speaker":null,"content":"secretary or someone who is an assistant to the principal secretary because there is no role that is very unique and specific for a CAS. I heard a Member say that the CASs are some of the people who will help the President to run the Government. My assumption has always been that the President is running the Government and his responsibilities are clearly outlaid in the Constitution. Why do we want another person to help him in running the Government? Has it stopped running? Is that why we want to put in another person whose role is not unique in any way? There is nothing absolutely unique about the role of the CAS that has been introduced to convince us to support the Bill. Right now, we are grappling with salary delays for different State and public officers and yet we want to introduce another log on the wage bill. Is the Government really sure that this is something it wants to take on? I have also looked at the qualifications and I feel really sad and sorry for the hustlers of this country. I am waiting for the day when a bill that will enable hustlers to apply for some of these jobs will be brought here. These things are very specific to a specific type of people in this country. We are not looking at the masses. What do we have for them? What are we telling them? The Kenya Kwanza Administration campaigned vigorously on the agenda of the hustlers and that they would defend and protect them and create employment for them. What employment are they creating for them? What are we telling them if we are only creating jobs for specific people? Hon. Temporary Speaker, we have outlaid the qualifications and the responsibilities of the CASs that we want to give these appointments. In all honesty, I think the Departmental Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs hurried on this. They need to reconsider some of these things before we pass it. I really hope that my senior, whom I respect very much, the Chairman of the Departmental Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs, is listening to me and will take into considerations the amendments we are proposing. When we come here and contribute, we are not just doing it for the sake of it, but we are doing it because we want to enrich the laws that are coming through this Parliament. Hon. Temporary Speaker, as I finish, I just want to salute and applaud you for overruling the Member who tried to stifle debate. We have had many experiences of debates being stifled in this House and yet the essence of us being here is to debate and ventilate over issues. As we always say, even if the majority will have their way, let the minority, at least, have their say. I thank you."},{"id":1394683,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1394683/?format=json","text_counter":401,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Kesses, UDA","speaker_title":"Hon. Julius Rutto","speaker":null,"content":" On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Speaker."},{"id":1394684,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1394684/?format=json","text_counter":402,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Hon. Farah Maalim","speaker_title":"The Temporary Speaker","speaker":{"id":16,"legal_name":"Farah Maalim Mohamed","slug":"farah-maalim"},"content":" What is your point of order, Hon. Rutto?"},{"id":1394685,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1394685/?format=json","text_counter":403,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Kesses, UDA","speaker_title":"Hon. Julius Rutto","speaker":null,"content":" Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I rise pursuant to Standing Order 95. We have dwelled on this debate for some time. The Mover should now be called upon to reply."},{"id":1394686,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1394686/?format=json","text_counter":404,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Hon. Farah Maalim","speaker_title":"The Temporary Speaker","speaker":{"id":16,"legal_name":"Farah Maalim Mohamed","slug":"farah-maalim"},"content":" Fair enough."},{"id":1394687,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1394687/?format=json","text_counter":405,"type":"scene","speaker_name":"","speaker_title":"","speaker":null,"content":"(Question, that the Mover be now called upon to reply, put and agreed to)"},{"id":1394688,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1394688/?format=json","text_counter":406,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Kikuyu, UDA","speaker_title":"Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah","speaker":null,"content":" Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. First, allow me to thank all Hon. Members who have contributed to this debate, right from when it began on Thursday last week, to this late hour in the day. They include Nominated Member Hon. Irene Mayaka, who was the last to contribute, although she said ‘dismissment’."},{"id":1394689,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1394689/?format=json","text_counter":407,"type":"scene","speaker_name":"","speaker_title":"","speaker":null,"content":"(Laughter)"},{"id":1394690,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1394690/?format=json","text_counter":408,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Kikuyu, UDA","speaker_title":"Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah","speaker":null,"content":"The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor"}]}