{"count":1608389,"next":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/?format=json&page=138781","previous":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/?format=json&page=138779","results":[{"id":1404211,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1404211/?format=json","text_counter":598,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Sen. Methu","speaker_title":"","speaker":{"id":13581,"legal_name":"Methu John Muhia","slug":"methu-john-muhia"},"content":"Madam Temporary Speaker, I heard you call me and I want to make the best out of the five minutes that I have before we adjourn. As a Member who sits in CPAC, when we speak about pending bills, as I rise to support this particular Motion. We must first define what pending bills are. Pending bills is when somebody has taken his or her own money or a loan, gone to a county like Nairobi or the counties cited here, done a road, a hospital, delivered pipes and done a classroom with his own money and not paid their own money. Madam Temporary Speaker, as we speak about these pending bills, my Chairman, Sen. Kajwang,’ will tell you that when we look at these pending bills, every report of the Auditor General has a line that makes most counties not to get an unqualified audit opinion. Every county has a line that is called ‘Account Payables,’ a line that has pending bills. This is a matter that has been spoken about in this House many times. In 2014/2015, the then Auditor General, Dr. Edward Ouko, carried out an audit to show the pending bills that are there in the counties. To this moment, in all the 47 counties that we have, none would say that they have a clean bill of records. I ask myself every time I sit in the CPAC, and my Chairman is there, he can confirm. When you have a pending bill that is sitting in your bills since 2013 or 2014, then you say that there is no documentation, you must either declare that a bad debt or say how you want to treat that pending bill. Tell us whether a road was done or not. I want you to conceptualise it this way: How long is a murram road expected to last? If you did a road in 2013 and you are being told that they are going to verify 14, 10 or 11 years later, where will they get that road? The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."},{"id":1404212,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1404212/?format=json","text_counter":599,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Sen. Methu","speaker_title":"","speaker":{"id":13581,"legal_name":"Methu John Muhia","slug":"methu-john-muhia"},"content":"Madam Temporary Speaker, every election cycle like in 2017, all the governors who got in had a pending bill verification committee. Every time we invite them, they tell us that they have a pending bill verification committee. This election of 2022, in every county, including Nyandarua, my own county, there was a pending bill verification committee. In every session, we say that there is a pending bill verification committee. One side of the pending bills says that these are eligible bills. The other side says that these are the ineligible bills. If then you have accepted and said that these are eligible bills, why are you not paying them? Madam Temporary Speaker, there is the second issue that we need to diagnose here. How and where are these pending bills borne from? One of the easiest routes of the birth of these pending bills is the fact that most of the counties overestimate their own source revenue. A county that collected Kshs450 million in their budget this year is saying that they expect to collect Kshs990 million, which is more than double of what they collected in the year under review. Even if you use mathematics, science or witchcraft, there are no new systems that you have done. There is nothing new you have or new taxes that you have introduced. How do you expect to double your own source? Ultimately, this one brings a hole in your budget. How do they meet this hole? Their procurement plan is informed by their budget. So, in the procurement plan of a county that has overstated their own source revenue, they procure with the strength that they intend to collect more in that year under review. What happens when it is the end of the year? They collected less than what they had intended to collect. So, they have procured services, but nothing---"},{"id":1404213,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1404213/?format=json","text_counter":600,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Sen. Veronica Maina","speaker_title":"The Temporary Speaker","speaker":null,"content":" Sen. Methu, you will have a balance of 10 minutes when the next sitting resumes."},{"id":1404214,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1404214/?format=json","text_counter":601,"type":"heading","speaker_name":"","speaker_title":"","speaker":null,"content":"ADJOURNMENT"},{"id":1404215,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1404215/?format=json","text_counter":602,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Sen. Veronica Maina","speaker_title":"The Temporary Speaker","speaker":null,"content":" Hon. Senators, it is now 6.30 p.m., time to adjourn the Senate. The Senate, therefore, stands adjourned until tomorrow, Thursday, 25th April, 2024, at 2.30 p.m."},{"id":1404216,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1404216/?format=json","text_counter":603,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Sen. Veronica Maina","speaker_title":"The Temporary Speaker","speaker":null,"content":"The Senate rose at 6.30 p.m. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."},{"id":1404217,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1404217/?format=json","text_counter":1,"type":"heading","speaker_name":"","speaker_title":"","speaker":null,"content":"REPUBLIC OF KENYA"},{"id":1404218,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1404218/?format=json","text_counter":2,"type":"heading","speaker_name":"","speaker_title":"","speaker":null,"content":"THIRTEENTH PARLIAMENT"},{"id":1404219,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1404219/?format=json","text_counter":3,"type":"heading","speaker_name":"","speaker_title":"","speaker":null,"content":"NATIONAL ASSEMBLY"},{"id":1404220,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1404220/?format=json","text_counter":4,"type":"heading","speaker_name":"","speaker_title":"","speaker":null,"content":"THE HANSARD"}]}