{"count":1608389,"next":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/?format=json&page=138996","previous":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/?format=json&page=138994","results":[{"id":1406361,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1406361/?format=json","text_counter":287,"type":"scene","speaker_name":"","speaker_title":"","speaker":null,"content":"(A Member spoke off the record)"},{"id":1406362,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1406362/?format=json","text_counter":288,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Hon. Omboko Milemba","speaker_title":"The Temporary Speaker","speaker":{"id":13328,"legal_name":"Jeremiah Omboko Milemba","slug":"jeremiah-omboko-milemba"},"content":"Order, Hon. Member. Hon. Joshua Mwalyo came much earlier. Remember, he ordinarily sits on the Minority Party side. Proceed."},{"id":1406363,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1406363/?format=json","text_counter":289,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Masinga, Independent","speaker_title":"Hon. Joshua Mwalyo","speaker":null,"content":" Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker, for giving me this time to add a few words to the Independent Electoral and Boundaries Commission (Amendment) Bill, 2024, which is very important for this country. The IEBC made us be in this House today. If it were not there, no one would be seated in this House today because there could not be any election. Therefore, this is a very important bill that we need to amend a few clauses and add others so that this country can be governed by the rule of law rather than impose some of the laws that are not in the Constitution. I thank the Committee that sat and came up with a very comprehensive Bill that can cure so many things in this country. They increased the number of panelists who will nominate the commissioners from seven to nine. They will be nominated by bodies in this country, such as the religious sector, the Law Society of Kenya (LSK) and others. That is a good idea, as is the way it was done before. Political parties nominated panelists, and all of us were not consulted. Kenya is now being brought together and included in the law-making process and choosing these commissioners. The Bill says that after the elections, the commissioners will sit down, evaluate the process and write a report, which will be brought to this Parliament. The lawmakers will check the issues and some of the shortcomings. Some of the shortcomings need to be enriched by the minds of this House. We need to be able to bring new blood in the way elections are conducted and also correct some of the shortcomings that we will have learned in the cycle of elections. That is a good thing because it has never happened in this country. So it is high time that we embrace the report that comes so that we can debate and everyone can give their own views on the way the Commission will be governed as far as elections are concerned. To me, that is a plus for this country. The other thing is, in terms of credentials, they have been able to urge Commissioners to have some knowledge of technology and also some accounting skills so that when you are given a gadget, you know how to operate it and you are also able to do a few things. You are also able to pick up some knowledge and give people some guidance when they are lost. The only thing that I think needs to be considered mostly is the way they are saying that they are going to review the boundaries. Already, those constituencies have Members of The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor"},{"id":1406364,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1406364/?format=json","text_counter":290,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Masinga, Independent","speaker_title":"Hon. Joshua Mwalyo","speaker":null,"content":"Parliament, and they are in operation. Also, the voters in those constituencies are now used to the way the Member of Parliament, his office, and all the units are there. Once it is dissolved, it means that so many things will have to be changed. The District County Commissioners (DCCs) will have to go; the Accounting Officers (ACs) will have to be reshuffled; and the way people behave in terms of development will change because the National Government Constituency Development Fund (NG-CDF) money will not be available again because they have already scrapped the constituency. I think this needs to be looked into properly and something is done so that we retain the same constituencies the way they are. One Member has argued that by the time the next census is done, the number of voters in that constituency or the population will have grown to the desired number by the Independent Electoral and Boundaries Commission. Also, those changes will bring friction, especially when people will not feel comfortable with their constituencies being merged with others. With those few remarks, I want to stop there and say that this is a good Bill and I support."},{"id":1406365,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1406365/?format=json","text_counter":291,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Hon. Omboko Milemba","speaker_title":"The Temporary Speaker","speaker":{"id":13328,"legal_name":"Jeremiah Omboko Milemba","slug":"jeremiah-omboko-milemba"},"content":" Hon. Harrison Kombe Magarini Constituency."},{"id":1406366,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1406366/?format=json","text_counter":292,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Magarini, ODM","speaker_title":"Hon. Harrison Kombe","speaker":null,"content":" Asante kwa kunipa nafasi hii nami niweze kuchangia Mswada huu wa Tume ya Uchaguzi na Mipaka. Kwanza Nachukua fursa hii niunge mkono na nipongeze Kamati iliyohusika kwa kuja na marekebishi ya sheria hii. Kwa hakika, ningeanza kwa kuunga mkono muda wa miaka mitatu kwa Mwenyekiti na wanakamati wengine ama Makamishna wengine. Huu ni muda wa kutosha na kama amefanya kazi nzuri, hakuna sababu ya kutoongezewa muda wa kuendelea. Hivyo basi sio lazima iwe miaka sita au tisa, kunao wengine na kila uchao, tunasema vijana ni viongozi wa kesho. Hiyo kesho itafika lini ikiwa tutashikilia tu kuwa wazee washikilie nyadhifa ambazo pengine wakati wao wa kupumzika umefika ili vijana wachukue hatamu hizo? Naunga mkono kiwango cha wale ambao wanaweza kupitisha jambo. Idadi yake ni watano. Hii itatupatia nafasi mwafaka itakayokuwa inaonyesha dhahiri kwamba yale ambayo wamepitishwa ni yale ambayo wananchi wanataka. Naunga mkono kujumuishwa kwa wale walio na tajiriba na ujuzi mbali mbali. Kwa hakika, hapa tutapiga hatua maana katika majadiliano yao, watafika mahali ambapo watatoa uamuzi wa mwisho ulio sawa na ambao hautaleta utata wa aina yoyote. Kwa kumalizia, nitazungumzia swala la maeneo bunge. Tukisema Kwamba kutakuwa na utata kwa sababu ya mazoea, basi ni dhahiri kuwa hakukuwa na haja ya kubadilisha maeneo bunge 212 yafike 290. Ikiwa idadi imezidi, kuna haja ya kugawanya maeneo bunge hayo ili huduma ziwe karibu na mwananchi. Kwa maeneo madogo ya wadi, ikiwa wadi moja iliyo na wapigaji kura 70,000 itaongozwa na Mbunge wa Kaunti mmoja ni shida. Ni dhahiri kwamba itastahili igawanywe ndio huduma ziweze kumfikia mwananchi pale chini aliko. Kwa hivyo, rai yangu ni kwamba kuna haja ya kuangalia swala la mipaka. Tumekumbwa na janga Magarini, ikizingatiwa kuwa eneo moja kiutawala liko katika eneo bunge lingine. Eneo hilo hilo liko katika wilaya nyingine. Kwa mfano, eneo la Shakahola. Tulitoa taarifa kwamba kuna jambo ambalo haliendi vizuri huko lakini kwa sababu liko katika eneo bunge la Magarini, na eneo lenyewe liko katika wilaya ya Malindi kiutawala, jambo hilo halikuweza kushughulikiwa. Hakika, madhara tuliyopata yalikuwa ya kutamausha hapa nchini Kenya na ulimwengu mzima. Hivyo basi, napendekeza kuwa wakati tume hii itaanza kugawanya maeneo bunge, ihakikishe kuwa sehemu za maeneo bunge haya hazipatikani kiutawala katika maeneo mengine; yote yawe upande mmoja. Nikichukua mfano wa maeneo bunge ya Magarini na Malindi, yamegawanywa na mto. Hata hivyo, kuna mahali ambapo tarafa moja imegawanywa na mto na ipo upande wa Malindi na vile vile upande wa Magarini. Ukifika The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor"},{"id":1406367,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1406367/?format=json","text_counter":293,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Magarini, ODM","speaker_title":"Hon. Harrison Kombe","speaker":null,"content":"wakati huo, itastahili lile eneo ligawanywe kuwe na tarafa nyingine ili zote ziwe katika wilaya moja na katika eneo bunge moja. Kwa hayo mengi, nasema asante."},{"id":1406368,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1406368/?format=json","text_counter":294,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Hon. Omboko Milemba","speaker_title":"The Temporary Speaker","speaker":{"id":13328,"legal_name":"Jeremiah Omboko Milemba","slug":"jeremiah-omboko-milemba"},"content":" Hon. John Waluke, Member of Parliament for Sirisia."},{"id":1406369,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1406369/?format=json","text_counter":295,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Sirisia, JP","speaker_title":"Hon. John Koyi","speaker":{"id":2792,"legal_name":"John Waluke Koyi","slug":"john-waluke-koyi"},"content":" Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker, for giving me the chance to contribute to this very important Bill. Hon. Temporary Speaker, I rise to support the Independent Electoral and Boundaries Commission (Amendment) Bill (National Assembly Bill No. 10 of 2024). This amendment Bill is going to cure many problems surrounding the elections. We have been having problems ever after and sometimes before elections. Mostly, it has been after the elections. In this country, people have fought, others have died, and properties have been destroyed many times after elections. For that reason, I thank the Committee that came up with these amendments. Sometimes, Kenyans, and mostly women, do not vote out of fear. In some areas, they are threatened, so they do not go out during that time for fear of being beaten. This Bill will greatly help ensure that the electoral laws are followed. That committee will include people of goodwill, good thoughts, and integrity. Therefore, as a House, we need to pass the Bill. We also need to pass these amendments, as they have been brought to the Floor of the House, so that we can save this country from many problems. There are good changes proposed for the Independent Electoral and Boundaries Commission. They have changed and increased the number from seven to nine commissioners who are people of integrity. The time of the commissioners in office should remain five years renewable. There are many Kenyans, including our sons, looking for jobs and who want to become commissioners, just like many others. We cannot say that we give them six or nine years as other Hon. Members are proposing. Five years is enough for a commissioner to serve, and if they have done a good job, it can be renewed. Therefore, the term of the CEO should also be five years. The CEO cannot hold office like a civil servant until they retire. Hon. Temporary Speaker, still on the issue of commissioners, in the changes of this committee, they have also appointed an accountant. This is because the problem in this country has been the counting of votes after elections. An accountant will manage this because it is his line of duty to make sure that the vote counting process is quick and will not cause problems in the country as it has before. Kenyans always see Members of Parliament because they elected us to represent them. What we pass here will be representative of the people of Kenya. They look up to us as their representatives to pass a good Bill that can make the country move forward. With this amendment, we can assure Kenyans that IEBC is going to be the good commission that Kenyans have wanted it to be. With those few remarks, I support the Bill. Thank you."},{"id":1406370,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1406370/?format=json","text_counter":296,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Hon. Omboko Milemba","speaker_title":"The Temporary Speaker","speaker":{"id":13328,"legal_name":"Jeremiah Omboko Milemba","slug":"jeremiah-omboko-milemba"},"content":" Member for Mbeere North."}]}