{"count":1608389,"next":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/?format=json&page=139139","previous":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/?format=json&page=139137","results":[{"id":1407791,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1407791/?format=json","text_counter":370,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Sen. Osotsi","speaker_title":"","speaker":{"id":13588,"legal_name":"Osotsi Godfrey Otieno","slug":"osotsi-godfrey-otieno"},"content":"This is another conversation that we must discuss in this House because I do not want to go home, and then I am confronted by county employees asking me why they have not been paid their salaries, and yet I have passed the disbursement schedule. The executive should stick to that. The Motion I am bringing here next week is to say that the schedule has to be respected. If there is any variation delaying disbursement, we do not want to hear"},{"id":1407792,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1407792/?format=json","text_counter":371,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Sen. Osotsi","speaker_title":"","speaker":{"id":13588,"legal_name":"Osotsi Godfrey Otieno","slug":"osotsi-godfrey-otieno"},"content":"The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."},{"id":1407793,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1407793/?format=json","text_counter":372,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Sen. Osotsi","speaker_title":"","speaker":{"id":13588,"legal_name":"Osotsi Godfrey Otieno","slug":"osotsi-godfrey-otieno"},"content":"rumours outside there. The Cabinet Secretary for the National Treasury and Economic Planning must appear in this House to tell us why he has delayed to send money to the counties. That is the only way we will get these people to send money to the counties in time. One of the pending bills in counties is pension and statutory deduction like NSSF. We have done a report that counties owe pensioners in excess of Kshs80 billion and it has been adopted in this House, yet someone is playing monkey games with it. We said that we want the Cabinet Secretary for the National Treasury and Economic Planning to gazette the Committee that is going to implement that report in 30 days. The Cabinet Secretary has not done that because the Attorney-General, who was the Speaker of this House, is sitting on that report. The resolutions of this House must be respected so that we move our counties forward. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I have quite a lot to say on this matter of pending bills. My county appeared before the Senate Committee on Finance and Budget and made promises. I would like to see them implementing those promises and paying all the historical and any other pending bills they have within the next two years as proposed in this Motion. With those remarks, I fully support this Motion and request Members to also support it. There are outstanding issues that the Senate needs to deal with, such as matters of own source revenue, diversion of funds, performance of the---"},{"id":1407794,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1407794/?format=json","text_counter":373,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Sen. Kathuri","speaker_title":"The Deputy Speaker","speaker":{"id":13590,"legal_name":"Murungi Kathuri","slug":"murungi-kathuri"},"content":" Sen. Munyi Mundigi proceed."},{"id":1407795,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1407795/?format=json","text_counter":374,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Sen. Munyi Mundigi","speaker_title":"","speaker":null,"content":"Bw. Naibu Spika, naunga mkono Seneta wa Kaunti ya Narok. Kuna mambo ambayo yanafaa kuangaliwa. Kenya ina kaunti 47 na kila mojawapo ina shida zake. Katika ulimwengu huu, miti haitoshani. Magavana walipochaguliwa katika kipindi cha kwanza na cha pili, waliajiri wafanyikazi waliokuwa na uhusiano nao. Wengine walikuwa wezi na walaghai. Magavana waliochaguliwa 2022 wanajaribu kusaidia ugatuzi. Watu wanafaa kulipwa madeni. Tunajua kaunti nyingi zina madeni. Kwa mfano, Kaunti ya Embu ina madeni ya bilioni Kshs2.2. Kitu kingine in wage bill . Naomba Maseneta wenzangu tusaidie kuendeleza ugatuzi kwa kuangalia usimamizi wa kazi katika kaunti zetu. Kuna kaunti ambazo zimepewa mabilioni ya pesa. Kaunti kama vile Turkana imepewa pesa nyingi kuliko Kaunti ya Embu ilhali tunasema magavana wanafaa kufanya kazi. Tunapozungumza kuhusu magavana kulipa pending bills na wage bill, hatuangalii pesa ambazo wanapewa au mishahara ambayo wanalipa. Kule vijijini, watu waliowachagua wanasema kuwa hakuna kazi ambayo wanafanya. Ni muhimu tujue ili tusionekane kuwa hatuelewi kama Maseneta. Tulikuwa tunapigia upato mfumo wa kura moja, mtu mmoja, shilingi moja. Tulipoingia katika Bunge hili, magavana walitaka pesa za kaunti ziwe bilioni Kshs425 lakini tukawapa bilioni Kshs415. Kwa sababu ya shida ya ukosefu wa pesa iliyokuwa wakati Serikali ya Kenya Kwanza ilipoingia mamlakani, tuliwapa bilioni Kshs385. Hapo"},{"id":1407796,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1407796/?format=json","text_counter":375,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Sen. Munyi Mundigi","speaker_title":"","speaker":null,"content":"The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."},{"id":1407797,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1407797/?format=json","text_counter":376,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Sen. Munyi Mundigi","speaker_title":"","speaker":null,"content":"ndipo makosa yalifanyika. Hatukufikiria sababu ambazo magavana ambao ni wasomi walikuwa nazo wakati walipoitisha pesa hizo. Ni lazima tuangazie mambo ya pending bills na wage bill . Sio lazima iwe vita kila wakati. Ndio maana tumepitisha kuwa wapewe Kshs415 billion. The Salaries and Remuneration Commission (SRC) imependekeza wapewe Kshs405 billion. Tunataka kuona kama watafanya hiyo kazi yote tukiwaongezea pesa. Kwa hivyo, Bw. Naibu Spika, naunga mkono lakini kuna mambo ambayo lazima tuangalie hata kama pesa inakuliwa. Tunafaa kujiuliza kwa nini magavana wanaitisha pesa nyingi. Ni kwa sababu kuna shida katika kaunti zetu. Kuna mambo wanayofaa kutekeleza lakini pesa haitoshi. Watu wanaendelea kufanya miradi ya maji na mambo mengine. Juzi madaktari walipogoma, watu walianza kusema kuwa kuna ubadhirifu wa pesa. Walisahau kuwa mambo ya afya yamegatuliwa. Shida kama hizo zinatokea kwa wingi. Magavana wana ujuzi ya kufanya kazi lakini bajeti zao hazilingani na pesa tunazowapa. Naomba sisi Maseneta tuangalie jinsi mambo yalivyo bila kusisitiza kuwa kuna ubadhirifu wa pesa ilhali tunataka walipe madeni. Kwa mfano, Kaunti ya Embu ina madeni ya bilioni Kshs2.2. Gavana atalipaje madeni ikiwa hana pesa ya kulipa mishahara? Kuna watu waliokuwa wanapata mishahara lakini hawapokei. Watalipa mishahara na nini? Wakati umefika wa magavana kulainisha kaunti zao. Bw. Naibu Spika, naunga mkono Hoja hii. Tunafaa kuzingatia mfumo wa mtu mmoja, kura moja, shilingi moja."},{"id":1407798,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1407798/?format=json","text_counter":377,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Sen. Kathuri","speaker_title":"The Deputy Speaker","speaker":{"id":13590,"legal_name":"Murungi Kathuri","slug":"murungi-kathuri"},"content":" Proceed, Sen. Kisang’."},{"id":1407799,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1407799/?format=json","text_counter":378,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Sen. Kisang’","speaker_title":"","speaker":null,"content":"Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I rise to support this Motion by the Senator for Narok. The issue of pending bills has been there for a long time since the inception of devolution. If you do the maths, the amount we have right now as pending bills is Kshs156 billion. Majority of these are recurrent expenditure. You wonder why there are pending bills on recurrent costs. Most of these could be salaries or statutory deductions such as the PAYE, pensions and National Health Insurance Fund (NHIF). One of the key reasons why some of these arise is because of mismanagement. It means that governors are not managing the counties properly. The County Public Investments and Special Funds Committee (CPIC) has had several meetings. I heard my colleague Sen. Cherarkey talk about CPAC too. When you go through the reports of the Auditor-General, you will realise that county governments over-budget their own source revenue, instead of being realistic and budgeting amounts they are able to collect. We urge Members of County Assembly (MCAs) to be finding out how much their county government collected as own source revenue in the previous years before they approve their budget. They should not accept anything more than 10 per cent in positive variation. The reason they over-budget, leading to this mess, is because our MCAs are not keen to ensure that county executives are put to check. They should be told to be realistic when budgeting. You cannot tell us that you collected Kshs300 million last year and this"},{"id":1407800,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1407800/?format=json","text_counter":379,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Sen. Kisang’","speaker_title":"","speaker":null,"content":"The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."}]}