{"count":1608389,"next":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/?format=json&page=139258","previous":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/?format=json&page=139256","results":[{"id":1408981,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1408981/?format=json","text_counter":109,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Hon. Speaker","speaker_title":"","speaker":null,"content":"Hon. Mary Wamaua. I see your name on the screen. You seem to be unprepared. Hon. Malulu Injendi, you have keyed in, proceed."},{"id":1408982,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1408982/?format=json","text_counter":110,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Malava, ANC","speaker_title":"Hon. Malulu Injendi","speaker":null,"content":" Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I rise to oppose this Motion. As I oppose this Motion, I also want to make it clear to the mover that persons opposing this Motion are not of unsound mind as he alleged in his moving remarks. He said persons opposing this Motion have unsound mind."},{"id":1408983,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1408983/?format=json","text_counter":111,"type":"scene","speaker_name":"","speaker_title":"","speaker":null,"content":"(Hon. Wanami Wamboka spoke off the record)"},{"id":1408984,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1408984/?format=json","text_counter":112,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Malava, ANC","speaker_title":"Hon. Malulu Injendi","speaker":null,"content":"You said that. It is on The Hansard . I want to confirm that I am of sound mind as I oppose this Motion. I oppose this Motion simply because many a time we have wanted to sacrifice people who are not really victims of what we want to sacrifice them for. I recall in Kakamega County, there was this fake fertiliser by the county government. Upon investigation, it was found that this fertiliser, as much as everyone was crying for the head of the governor, was something fishy with the standards of the supplier in Kakamega County. I am looking at the role of the CEO of NCPB in this procurement. I am also asking myself the role of Kenya Bureau of Standards. These are the key bodies that were advising on the standards of what to be supplied and finally what was supplied. I am afraid that what is being alleged here could be beyond what is on this Floor, because most of us, as we rise to speak, could be seeing more than what is on the Floor of this House. It could be something that has gone wrong somewhere, maybe in a family line or something like that, and finally found itself on the Floor. This matter is under investigation. The CEO of NCPB has been arrested. If we proceed to impeach the Cabinet Secretary, I would take it that you have acted before the truth about this fertiliser has come out. I would beg that we do not proceed with this Motion so that we give time to the actual bodies entitled with investigations, to complete the inquiry. We need to give time for the courts"},{"id":1408985,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1408985/?format=json","text_counter":113,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Malava, ANC","speaker_title":"Hon. Malulu Injendi","speaker":null,"content":"The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor"},{"id":1408986,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1408986/?format=json","text_counter":114,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Malava, ANC","speaker_title":"Hon. Malulu Injendi","speaker":null,"content":"and the Ethics and Anti-Corruption Commission (EACC) to conclude this matter. Finally, when we have a report, this matter can then come to the Floor of the House."},{"id":1408987,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1408987/?format=json","text_counter":115,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Malava, ANC","speaker_title":"Hon. Malulu Injendi","speaker":null,"content":"I am also aware that this matter is before the Departmental Committee on Agriculture and Livestock of the National Assembly and the Standing Committee on Agriculture, Livestock and Fisheries of the Senate. I ask that we let this matter to first of all be processed by those respective Committees, after which we can then proceed on whether this Cabinet Secretary is really a criminal as alleged by the mover."},{"id":1408988,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1408988/?format=json","text_counter":116,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Malava, ANC","speaker_title":"Hon. Malulu Injendi","speaker":null,"content":"I oppose this Motion. Thank you."},{"id":1408989,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1408989/?format=json","text_counter":117,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Hon. Speaker","speaker_title":"","speaker":null,"content":"Hon. Mbadi."},{"id":1408990,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1408990/?format=json","text_counter":118,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Nominated, ODM","speaker_title":"Hon. John Mbadi","speaker":{"id":110,"legal_name":"John Mbadi Ng'ong'o","slug":"john-mbadi"},"content":" Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I start by stating on record that I support this Motion. If you look at the names of the Members of Parliament who have appended their signatures for the initiation of the process for the removal of this Cabinet Secretary, I am number 57. I want to just mention a few things. First, the National Assembly has a responsibility which is given to us by the people of Kenya through the Constitution that we have today. Article 95(5) of the Constitution gives the National Assembly the responsibility to review the conduct in office of the President, the Deputy President and other State officers including Cabinet Secretaries, and initiate the process of removing them from office. Today, we are embarking on one of those cardinal responsibilities given to the National Assembly by the people of Kenya. To review the conduct of a Cabinet Secretary, one Mithika Linturi, and his suitability to hold office with a view to initiate the process of removing him. I want to plead with those Members of Parliament who think they want to save Mithika Linturi. If you love this Cabinet Secretary, the more reason you should vote for this Motion. We are not removing Mithika Linturi today. By supporting this Motion, we are not removing Mithika Linturi. Article 152 of the Constitution which gives details of how to remove a Cabinet Secretary from office states that a Member of the National Assembly, like Hon. Jack Wamboka has done, supported by at least one-quarter of all the Members of the Assembly, may propose a Motion requiring the President to dismiss a Cabinet Secretary. That is the Motion we are dealing with today. The grounds are stated. The same Article goes ahead to mention that if this Motion is supported by at least one-third of the Members of the National Assembly, then the Assembly shall appoint a Select Committee comprising of 11 of its Members to investigate the matter. Hon. Speaker, if you look at the document presented to us by Hon. Wamboka, the only way justice can be done to this Cabinet Secretary is for this House to push this matter forward. A Select Committee of this House will then have an opportunity to look at the details as presented. How else will we know that this telephone call was made by Hon. Mithika Linturi if we do not give an opportunity to this House to appoint a Select Committee to scrutinise, get to the bottom of these details and bring a report to us? If the Committee finds that these matters are not properly substantiated, then the matter will end there. The Committee will report back to the House and the matter will die. But if the matters will be substantiated, then this House will proceed to take another vote. Even before we take another vote, we shall present Hon. Mithika Linturi with an opportunity to address this Parliament and defend himself. That is when we shall know whether he is innocent or not. However, stopping this process at this stage would be reckless, careless and would demonstrate a House that does not know its responsibility. I also want to add that it is not just on grounds of gross violation of the provisions of this Constitution that you would initiate a process of removing a Cabinet Secretary. It is not only on grounds where serious reasons of believing that the Cabinet Secretary has committed a crime under the National or International Law, that a process like this would be initiated. This"}]}