{"count":1608389,"next":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/?format=json&page=139264","previous":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/?format=json&page=139262","results":[{"id":1409041,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1409041/?format=json","text_counter":169,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Hon. Speaker","speaker_title":"","speaker":null,"content":"Hon. Rahim Dawood"},{"id":1409042,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1409042/?format=json","text_counter":170,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"North Imenti, Independent","speaker_title":"Hon. Rahim Dawood","speaker":null,"content":" Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I oppose this Motion. The Mover of this Motion, Hon. Wamboka, has said very passionately and emotionally that he for the farmers. Everybody in this House supports farmers too. He should lay the blame where it falls and not at the feet of the Hon. Cabinet Secretary. Page 530 of our Order Paper, 2(a) says, serious reasons for believing that the Cabinet Secretary has committed a crime under national law. In 2(b), it says, criminal proceedings in relation to six pending civil, commercial and family suits. What has his family or civil suits got to do with the impeachment? I was in the Committee on Appointments with Hon. Opiyo Wandayi, the Minority Whip, the Leader of the Majority Party, Deputy Leader of the Majority Party and others, where we vetted the Cabinet Secretary. He admitted to having those cases. Hon. Speaker, those cases are in a court of law. He is now bringing up other things which are not related to fertiliser in his pleadings which I think is completely wrong. On the same page, 1(e) says that the Cabinet Secretary provided wrong information. Capital Africa was given a contract which was signed by the National Cereals and Produce Board (NCPB) in 2022, when Hon. Mithika Linturi was not even the Cabinet Secretary. Is he apportioning blame for what was done in March 2022 to Hon. Cabinet Secretary, Linturi? I think Hon. Wamboka and some of the Hon. Members here have got a vendetta against the Cabinet Secretary because he handles more than 100 Semi-Autonomous Government Agencies (SAGAs) under his Ministry. Therefore, he should not be seen to be supervising each one of them. We are now saying that we want Cabinet Secretary to take the flick. Our Leader of the Minority Party has said that there was sabotage. Yes, there was sabotage of the Cabinet Secretary because there are bags which were found. Why have we not talked about the MEMES AGRO Solution Limited Distributors? Who are its owners? Hon. Speaker, the majority owner is Mr. Collins Ngetich who had a civil case with Cabinet Secretary, Hon. Mithika Linturi, regarding Atticon Ltd. He is on his opposite side. Definitely, Mems Distributors Ltd are the ones culpable of adding bad things in the fertiliser bags of Kel Chemicals Ltd. Hon. Wamboka has said the Cabinet Secretary tried to call Kel Chemicals Ltd Director, Mr. Kumar, for more than 20 times. I can call Leader of the Majority Party or even you, Hon. Speaker, and you fail to pick it. Sometimes I call my friend here, Hon. Ronald Karauri, for more than 20 times but he does not pick my calls. What does it mean? If I talk to him, do they have records of what I tell him? You cannot say you called somebody 20 times, when you do not know what the conversation was about. It is a matter of conjecture that Hon. Cabinet Secretary Mithika Linturi called the Director of Kel Chemicals Ltd. They said more bags were supplied. Mems Distributors Ltd should tell us what happened to them. This Motion is not going anywhere. We support Cabinet Secretary because he is not culpable. Let the people who are culpable be taken to court. Let the Departmental Committee on Agriculture and Livestock finish its job. Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I oppose the Motion."},{"id":1409043,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1409043/?format=json","text_counter":171,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Hon. Speaker","speaker_title":"","speaker":null,"content":"Hon. Sabina Chege."},{"id":1409044,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1409044/?format=json","text_counter":172,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Nominated, Jubilee","speaker_title":"Hon. Sabina Chege","speaker":null,"content":" Thank you, Hon. Speaker, for giving me an opportunity to speak on this Motion. I am a Member of the Departmental Committee on Agriculture and Livestock. We encountered this story of fake fertiliser from the time it caught the attention of committee of this House. Many things have transpired. I want to highlight a few things that Members should know. The Departmental Committee on Agriculture and Livestock has summoned many of the mentioned people here, including the Cabinet Secretary and some of"},{"id":1409045,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1409045/?format=json","text_counter":173,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Nominated, Jubilee","speaker_title":"Hon. Sabina Chege","speaker":null,"content":"The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor"},{"id":1409046,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1409046/?format=json","text_counter":174,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Nominated, Jubilee","speaker_title":"Hon. Sabina Chege","speaker":null,"content":"the business people. We also went to the ground. Last weekend, we were in Kitale, Eldoret, Meru, Embu and many parts of this country to engage farmers. For the record, it is important for the House to know that the fertiliser that has been distributed in the Financial Year 2023/2024 is around 4.8 million bags. It is the same quantity that was distributed in the Financial Year 2022/2023. The first bunch that was distributed last year, that had no questions, was procured by Kenya National Trading Corporation (KNTC). The bunch, that has brought attention, of about 3000 bags which is fake was distributed by NCPB which is a parastatal that is run by a Chief Executive Officer (CEO) and Board. As a Committee, we looked into this issue. A manufacturer called Mems Distributors Ltd was awarded a contract to distribute fertiliser that he had not produced before. He approached Kel Chemicals Ltd and requested them to produce Kel Green Fertiliser and the formula was given. It was taken to KEBS and got the approval. After this, they produced the first 50,000 bags that were of good quality. When we spoke to farmers, they were happy. Later on, NCPB gave a contract to the same company—Mems Distributors Ltd that is not a manufacturer but a supplier and distributor—to distribute extra 500,000 bags of fertiliser. What happened? The businessman became greedy. The total number of bags of KEL Green fertiliser that were distributed by KELS Chemicals Limited and that are on record were only 69,000. Remember, around 4.8 million bags have been distributed in the republic. I would like this House to ask itself who the guilty party is. We may be a bit emotional and upset because farmers are definitely suffering. That is the truth. The House should also know that the KEL Green fertiliser was distributed through the Government programme. There is also the GPC Organic fertiliser, which is manufactured by a different company, which approached the National Cereals and Produce Board (NCPB) and requested them to distribute their fertiliser on their behalf, not as a Government programme. If you followed reports in the media, this is the fertiliser that had some soil mixed with manure and yet, it was called organic fertiliser. We have a chain here. There is the NCPB, which is the distributor, and the Kenya Bureau of Standards (KEBS). There is also Mr. Kariuki, who is the person behind the GPC Organic fertiliser. When he was asked about what he was supplying, he shamelessly told the Committee to ask the KEBS. Even he did not know what he was supplying to the farmers. Remember, this was not part of the Government programme. I have a lot of respect for the Member who brought this Motion. As we prosecute this matter, I urge Members to take their time and allow the Committee to table a proper report on what happened. This is because we have crooks masquerading as businesspeople in Kenya. They should be named and shamed in this House, and also jailed for taking advantage of innocent farmers. I know many Members may say that the Cabinet Secretary is arrogant, uncouth, and unqualified. That is neither here nor there because this House approved his appointment. However, the question remains: who gave our farmers fake fertiliser?"},{"id":1409047,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1409047/?format=json","text_counter":175,"type":"scene","speaker_name":"","speaker_title":"","speaker":null,"content":"(Loud consultations)"},{"id":1409048,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1409048/?format=json","text_counter":176,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Nominated, Jubilee","speaker_title":"Hon. Sabina Chege","speaker":null,"content":"I am not naming who gave the farmers fake fertiliser, but the KEBS exists."},{"id":1409049,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1409049/?format=json","text_counter":177,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Hon. Speaker","speaker_title":"","speaker":null,"content":"Order."},{"id":1409050,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1409050/?format=json","text_counter":178,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Nominated, JP","speaker_title":"Hon. Sabina Chege","speaker":null,"content":" Can you allow me to continue, Hon. Speaker? The NCPB, which is a Government parastatal, has a full Board and a Chief Executive Officer (CEO). Does Hon. Linturi procure fertiliser on behalf of the NCPB? That is the question. What is the role of the NCPB Board? I hope this House can come up with conclusive findings so that even the NCPB, as the fertiliser distributor, can monitor what comes into their stores."}]}