{"count":1608389,"next":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/?format=json&page=139975","previous":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/?format=json&page=139973","results":[{"id":1416151,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1416151/?format=json","text_counter":518,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Tinderet, UDA","speaker_title":"Hon. Julius Melly","speaker":null,"content":"Therefore, the Committee saw it wise to delete this section. Thank you."},{"id":1416152,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1416152/?format=json","text_counter":519,"type":"scene","speaker_name":"","speaker_title":"","speaker":null,"content":"(Question of the amendment proposed)"},{"id":1416153,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1416153/?format=json","text_counter":520,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Funyula, ODM","speaker_title":"Hon. (Dr) Ojiambo Oundo","speaker":null,"content":" On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Chairman."},{"id":1416154,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1416154/?format=json","text_counter":521,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Hon. Omboko Milemba","speaker_title":"The Temporary Chairman","speaker":{"id":13328,"legal_name":"Jeremiah Omboko Milemba","slug":"jeremiah-omboko-milemba"},"content":" I hear you, Hon. Oundo."},{"id":1416155,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1416155/?format=json","text_counter":522,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Funyula, ODM","speaker_title":"Hon. (Dr) Ojiambo Oundo","speaker":null,"content":" Hon. Temporary Chairman, there seems to be a bit of uncertainty. This is because Section 25 of the Act reads, ‘where a declaration under this section is made with respect to a public institution…’"},{"id":1416156,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1416156/?format=json","text_counter":523,"type":"scene","speaker_name":"","speaker_title":"","speaker":null,"content":"(Hon. Julius Melly consulted with Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah)"},{"id":1416157,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1416157/?format=json","text_counter":524,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Funyula, ODM","speaker_title":"Hon. (Dr) Ojiambo Oundo","speaker":null,"content":"I hope the Chairperson is listening. The reference is to a public institution and not a private one through the backdoor, as he alleges. Hon. Temporary Chairman, allow me to proceed once he is listening. We need an immediate response. We shall not go back to the Hansard ."},{"id":1416158,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1416158/?format=json","text_counter":525,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Hon. Omboko Milemba","speaker_title":"The Temporary Chairman","speaker":{"id":13328,"legal_name":"Jeremiah Omboko Milemba","slug":"jeremiah-omboko-milemba"},"content":" Proceed, Hon. Oundo. The House is listening, some with their third ears. Proceed."},{"id":1416159,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1416159/?format=json","text_counter":526,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Funyula, ODM","speaker_title":"Hon. (Dr) Ojiambo Oundo","speaker":null,"content":" I think the Chairperson of the Committee seems to be a bit unclear on exactly what he wants to do. The amendment as proposed in the Bill was to buttress or give clarity to Section 25 which states that where declaration of this section is made concerning with respect to a public institution. The catch word here “public institution” shall only apply where such institution is a national polytechnic within the meaning of the Technical and Vocational Education Training Act. It is the President who declares a technical institution to be a national polytechnic. The purpose of that particular Clause or Section was to put in place a progression system where an institution can start as a Technical Vocational and Educational Training (TVET), become a national polytechnic, and then by the declaration, it can become a national or a specialised university. If we look at the published Bill on Page 1843, it says that a declaration under this section shall only apply to a public institution. So again, he misled the House and the nation to the effect that a private institution could find its way through. Previously it was a national polytechnic within the meaning clearly indicated and has the requisite physical facilities and human source capacity that are appropriate for a technical university. On that score and I want to persuade the committee. Probably the Chairperson might have not been very clear on what he is talking about. I ask him to withdraw that amendment and let the amendment that is in the Bill stand. Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairman."},{"id":1416160,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1416160/?format=json","text_counter":527,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Hon. Omboko Milemba","speaker_title":"The Temporary Chairman","speaker":{"id":13328,"legal_name":"Jeremiah Omboko Milemba","slug":"jeremiah-omboko-milemba"},"content":" Leader of the Majority Party."}]}