{"count":1608389,"next":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/?format=json&page=144489","previous":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/?format=json&page=144487","results":[{"id":1463072,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1463072/?format=json","text_counter":198,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Hon. Kingi","speaker_title":"The Speaker","speaker":null,"content":" Take your seat, hon. Senators. I will proceed to put the question. Sen. Okiya Omtatah, take your seat please."},{"id":1463073,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1463073/?format=json","text_counter":199,"type":"scene","speaker_name":"","speaker_title":"","speaker":null,"content":"(Question put and negatived)"},{"id":1463074,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1463074/?format=json","text_counter":200,"type":"scene","speaker_name":"","speaker_title":"","speaker":null,"content":"(Loud consultations)"},{"id":1463075,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1463075/?format=json","text_counter":201,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Hon. Kingi","speaker_title":"The Speaker","speaker":null,"content":"Order, hon. Senators. Sen. Mundigi, take your seat. Senator for Nandi, the Motion is lost. What more do you want from that? Hon. Senators, as you may have noticed, the Senate Majority Leader moved the Motion at Order No.8 on today's Order Paper for the establishment of a special committee to investigate the proposed removal from office by impeachment of Hon. Kawira Mwangaza, the Governor of Meru County. The Motion has been negatived. Hon. Senators, as I communicated earlier by way of a Message on the resolution of the Meru County Assembly made on Thursday, 8th August, 2024 for the removal from office by impeachment of Hon. Kawira Mwangaza, the Governor of Meru County, Section 33(3)(a) of the County Governments Act and Standing Order No.80(1)(b) of the Senate, provide that the Senate may, by resolution, appoint a special committee comprising 11 of its members to investigate the matter. We will investigate the matter in plenary. The Motion having been negated, the route of a special committee is abandoned. That now implies that the Senate will investigate the proposed removal from office by impeachment of Hon. Kawira Mwangaza, the Governor of Meru County, in plenary, pursuant to section 33(3)(a) of the County Governments Act and Standing Order No.80(1)(b)(2). The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."},{"id":1463076,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1463076/?format=json","text_counter":202,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Hon. Kingi","speaker_title":"The Speaker","speaker":null,"content":"Hon. Senators, at this meeting held today, Wednesday, 14th August, 2024, the Senate Business Committee (SBC) considered the provisional dates for this investigation in the event that the matter was to be investigated in plenary. In line with the schedule of activities for impeachment, hearing in plenary, I hereby give you the following directions- (1) The Clerk to issue invitations to appear to the parties on Wednesday 14th August, 2024. So, we issued the notice today. (2) The parties to file their responses with the office of the Clerk of the Senate by Saturday 17th August, 2024 by 5.00 p.m. (3) The Clerk to circulate documents received from the parties, including the plenary hearing programme, to all hon. Senators by close of business on Sunday 18th, August 2024, by 5.00 p.m. (4). The Senate shall investigate the matter in plenary on Monday, 19th August and Tuesday, 20th August, 2024. The Senate is accordingly guided. I thank you. Yes, Sen. Boni."},{"id":1463077,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1463077/?format=json","text_counter":203,"type":"heading","speaker_name":"","speaker_title":"","speaker":null,"content":"POINT OF ORDER"},{"id":1463078,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1463078/?format=json","text_counter":204,"type":"heading","speaker_name":"","speaker_title":"","speaker":null,"content":"ROLE OF NOMINATED SENATORS DURING IMPEACHMENT PROCEEDINGS"},{"id":1463079,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1463079/?format=json","text_counter":205,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale","speaker_title":"","speaker":{"id":170,"legal_name":"Bonny Khalwale","slug":"bonny-khalwale"},"content":"Mr. Speaker, Sir, because of the respect that we accord Members every time they speak, I have been listening to the contributions and heard two Nominated Senators who have raised a point of common sense. That, if Nominated Senators cannot vote in a delegation; and since it requires a delegation to vote to make a decision on removal of a governor, the point of common sense that I have raised is that we have been carrying out an illegality for them to have been participating in committee decisions. Mr. Speaker, Sir, I would like you to clarify either now or later, substantially, for clarity that for that reason, Nominated Senators cannot sit in a special committee on impeachment because they have no vote."},{"id":1463080,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1463080/?format=json","text_counter":206,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Hon. Kingi","speaker_title":"The Speaker","speaker":null,"content":" Proceed, Senator for Nandi."},{"id":1463081,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1463081/?format=json","text_counter":207,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Sen. Cherarkey","speaker_title":"","speaker":{"id":13217,"legal_name":"Cherarkey K Samson","slug":"cherarkey-k-samson"},"content":"Mr. Speaker, Sir, further, tied up with Sen. Boni, I would like to invite your interpretation on Article 123 on decision of the Senate and further on the removal of a president as provided for under Article 145(7), where it does not substantively refer to the delegations. We need your interpretation on what it means. Since the Nominated Senators cannot participate in the impeachment of a governor because it is by division of delegations as per Article 123, what happens in future if a president has to be impeached, yet it says ‘members of the Senate?’ Mr. Speaker, Sir, when you retreat into your Chambers to write a Solomonic ruling, seek the interpretation and guide us on whether in future, the head of delegations of those units be consulted before both the minority and majority make certain decisions. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."}]}