{"count":1608389,"next":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/?format=json&page=147552","previous":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/?format=json&page=147550","results":[{"id":1493702,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1493702/?format=json","text_counter":139,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Wajir South, ODM","speaker_title":"Hon. Mohammed Adow","speaker":null,"content":"About 80 per cent of the landmass of this country is in the arid areas, but we have continued to concentrate agriculture only in the wetlands. I also refuse the notion that terms Nyeri, Nyahururu, Meru, Bomet and Murang’a as arid or semi-arid lands. So, I am totally dissatisfied with the answer that has been provided by the Ministry. They have just enumerated projects here, including 11 irrigation schemes, 19 micro-irrigation schemes, 48 pans and earth dams, 49 boreholes, and so many others. They are not saying where exactly those projects have been initiated."},{"id":1493703,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1493703/?format=json","text_counter":140,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Wajir South, ODM","speaker_title":"Hon. Mohammed Adow","speaker":null,"content":"I am aware that there are farmers who are very eager to grow their own food and sell the surplus. Those farmers are struggling with lack of water. They have the land and the human resource, but they get very little help from the county governments and the national Government. That is why I brought the request for statement to the Floor of this House. I am deeply dissatisfied."},{"id":1493704,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1493704/?format=json","text_counter":141,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Hon. Peter Kaluma","speaker_title":"The Temporary Speaker","speaker":{"id":1565,"legal_name":"George Peter Opondo Kaluma","slug":"george-peter-opondo-kaluma"},"content":" Hon. Dido Raso."},{"id":1493705,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1493705/?format=json","text_counter":142,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Saku, UDA","speaker_title":"Hon. Ali Raso","speaker":null,"content":" Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I represent the pastoralists in this Parliament; and over 90 Members of Parliament who come from the Arid and Semi-Arid Lands (ASALs). There is a lot of money in the Ministry of Agriculture and Livestock Development in the ASALs name, but it is not really used in the Arid and Semi-Arid Lands (ASALs). It is being used elsewhere."},{"id":1493706,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1493706/?format=json","text_counter":143,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Saku, UDA","speaker_title":"Hon. Ali Raso","speaker":null,"content":"I wish the Chairman of the Budget and Appropriations Committee was in the House to get it very clear from us - as Members of the Pastoralist Parliamentary Group - that if money is being borrowed from the World Bank (WB) and the International Monetary Fund (IMF) to support ASALs, it should cease because that money is not doing what it is supposed to do. Somebody is even saying that Nyeri is an ASAL. I know that some parts of Laikipia falls in the ASAL category. Some of those so-called arid areas is a new founded thing. It is fashionable to call yourself a pastoralist or you come from an ASAL area just because you want to dip your The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."},{"id":1493707,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1493707/?format=json","text_counter":144,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Saku, UDA","speaker_title":"Hon. Ali Raso","speaker":null,"content":"hand into the pocket of what should help those marginalised and far-flung areas. We have been around in this country for a while. Even when you go to Nyanza, there are areas that are ASALs. However, it is a deliberate effort by those who are cutting the cake to help some for their people. Hon. Adow’s request for statement was very clear, but what has been read by the Vice- Chairman is quite dissatisfying. As Members from ASAL areas, we want to sit with the Principal Secretary and the Cabinet Secretary for the Ministry of Agriculture and Livestock Development so that they can tell us about those projects that the Chair has read because none of those irrigation projects are in the ASALs. There are very few boreholes that are there."},{"id":1493708,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1493708/?format=json","text_counter":145,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Saku, UDA","speaker_title":"Hon. Ali Raso","speaker":null,"content":"The response is quite dissatisfying. We cannot kill the messenger because the Chairman is just reading what the Ministry has written down. We need to cause a more deliberate meeting for the Members of the Pastoralist Parliamentary Group to sit with the Ministry and get satisfying answers."},{"id":1493709,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1493709/?format=json","text_counter":146,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Hon. Peter Kaluma","speaker_title":"The Temporary Speaker","speaker":{"id":1565,"legal_name":"George Peter Opondo Kaluma","slug":"george-peter-opondo-kaluma"},"content":" Hon. (Prof.) Jaldesa."},{"id":1493710,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1493710/?format=json","text_counter":147,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Moyale, UPIA","speaker_title":"Hon. Prof. Guyo Jaldesa","speaker":null,"content":" Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I want to add my voice that the response given by the Departmental Committee on Agriculture and Livestock is unsatisfactory. If you tell them to list those 18 irrigation schemes and 28 boreholes, you will realise that they are not there, particularly in the ASAL areas. So, the Hon. Member was given a report that he has struggled to read in Parliament. He needed to have read it and convinced himself that what he is reading to the House is reasonable. Unfortunately, there are many people who do not live in Arid and Semi-arid Lands (ASALs) but, because they want to take advantage of affirmative action which is provided for in the Constitution, everybody wants to claim that they are in ASALs. That is why they talk of Bomet, Nyeri and Murang’a being ASALs. What ASAL is there in Nyeri? Have you seen an arid and semi-arid land in this country? Why should people who live in good climatic condition areas want to claim that they are also in ASALs? It is so that they can benefit from the little that is meant to be allocated to the people who have been marginalised since 1965 by Sessional Paper No.10 of 1965. They want to continue reaping from the little benefit that we are supposed to get as provided for in the 2010 Constitution. So, Nyeri Town cannot be an ASAL. I do not know why the tallest man wants to talk about those things."},{"id":1493711,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1493711/?format=json","text_counter":148,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Nyeri Town, UDA","speaker_title":"Hon. Duncan Mathenge","speaker":null,"content":" On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Speaker."}]}