{"count":1608389,"next":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/?format=json&page=147749","previous":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/?format=json&page=147747","results":[{"id":1495672,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1495672/?format=json","text_counter":57,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Kikuyu, UDA","speaker_title":"Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah","speaker":null,"content":"The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."},{"id":1495673,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1495673/?format=json","text_counter":58,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Kikuyu, UDA","speaker_title":"Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah","speaker":null,"content":"Hon. Deputy Speaker, I commit that we have agreed with the chairpersons of those committees that, in due course and as soon as the substantive Speaker is back, we will organise a Kamukunji that will also apprise Hon. Members on all the provisions of all these Bills. This will ensure that we are all well informed and ready to debate during the Second Reading without anticipating debate. With those many remarks, Hon. Deputy Speaker, I beg to move and request the Majority Whip, the one and only Hon. Silvanus Osoro, to second. Thank you."},{"id":1495674,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1495674/?format=json","text_counter":59,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"South Mugirango, UDA","speaker_title":"Hon. Silvanus Osoro","speaker":null,"content":" Hon. Deputy Speaker, I may not have anything useful to add to what the Leader of the Majority Party has well-articulated, but just to remind Hon. Members that these particular Bills are very important and vital to the development of this country. You will all agree with me that matters tax and procurement are no longer a preserve of the few well-learned people. It is now a matter that is in public domain. Everyone wants to discuss procurement or tax. Nowadays, you cannot lie to people. You cannot tell them what the law says. They already know. In particular, the Public Procurement and Asset Disposal (Amendment) Bill is very vital. It is actually seeking to realign the procurement procedures with Article 227 of the Constitution, so as to make public procurement policies as equitable, competitive, transparent and cost-effective as possible. It is very important that we pass this Bill. Just to remind Hon. Members, our Calendar is quite full, even beyond the 5th of December. When we break for recess from 5th, we will proceed for the East African Legislative Assembly (EALA) Games in Mombasa until the 18th of December. Thereafter, it is Christmas and every one of us, of course, wants to engage and spend some time with their family. In January, most Hon. Members here, who are parents, will be running up and down to take their children to school and help their constituents with bursaries and such kind of things. We will start the next session in the month of February. If we do not dispense with these Bills within this predetermined time, which is very limited, between now and 5th, we will have a huge challenge fixing everything that pertains to these particular important Bills. With those many remarks, I beg to second."},{"id":1495675,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1495675/?format=json","text_counter":60,"type":"scene","speaker_name":"","speaker_title":"","speaker":null,"content":"(Question proposed)"},{"id":1495676,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1495676/?format=json","text_counter":61,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Hon. Deputy Speaker","speaker_title":"","speaker":null,"content":"Hon. Members, let us just allow one person, Hon. Nyikal, and then we can proceed."},{"id":1495677,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1495677/?format=json","text_counter":62,"type":"scene","speaker_name":"","speaker_title":"","speaker":null,"content":"(Hon. (Dr) Robert Pukose spoke off record)"},{"id":1495678,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1495678/?format=json","text_counter":63,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Hon. Deputy Speaker","speaker_title":"","speaker":null,"content":"Hon. Pukose, that is not your prerogative."},{"id":1495679,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1495679/?format=json","text_counter":64,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Seme, ODM","speaker_title":"Hon. (Dr) James Nyikal","speaker":null,"content":" Hon. Deputy Speaker, I rise to agree with the Leader of the Majority Party and support this process. But I want to make it very clear that those five laws we are dealing with are what the economy of this country is going to run on. We are talking of public finance laws and you know where we have just come from. It is important that people take it seriously. You saw what happened to us when we did not listen to the people. That is what brings the money and how we spend the money. The Tax Procedures (Amendment) Bill is what will bring the money that we want to spend in the finance laws. It is, therefore, extremely important because those procedures and Bills are how money comes in. When you talk about public procurement, it is the only way the Government spends money. That is how money moves to get services done. The business laws are where all that money comes from. Therefore, in a nutshell, these are extremely important laws and I agree with the Leader of the Majority Party. Hon. Deputy Speaker, I know time is short and I agree that we should hurry and pass them as soon as possible. However, our emphasis should be that both this House and the public"},{"id":1495680,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1495680/?format=json","text_counter":65,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Seme, ODM","speaker_title":"Hon. (Dr) James Nyikal","speaker":null,"content":"The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."},{"id":1495681,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1495681/?format=json","text_counter":66,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Seme, ODM","speaker_title":"Hon. (Dr) James Nyikal","speaker":null,"content":"should understand fully what we are talking about. This will ensure that when decisions are made by this House and by the public, it is on the basis of information. Sometimes, there is a danger in passing the laws quickly and get over with them, just because we understand and we leave the people behind. We even leave Members of Parliament behind, who just turn into voting machines and later on, they say they did not read and understand. This time around, let us get it right. The emphasis should be on getting it right and not passing it. We should not be afraid of being called from recess to come and discuss this. This is more important than the recess we are going into. I, therefore, support and appreciate this and without anticipating debate, this leads directly to Order No.9 and the exemptions. Even those without anticipating debate are actually in order with this. Just to reiterate, please this time, let us look at the interests of the country and not political positions or business interests. Those are what we should look at in these laws because if we do not, we can face the same problems we faced recently with the Finance Bill. With that, I support."}]}