{"count":1608389,"next":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/?format=json&page=147878","previous":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/?format=json&page=147876","results":[{"id":1496962,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1496962/?format=json","text_counter":184,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Sen. Crystal Asige","speaker_title":"","speaker":null,"content":"Otherwise, we may be legislating and then not be able to follow through with implementation at all. Then we are going to put vulnerable Kenyans in more trouble with the law when they never intended to ever be in trouble with the law in this way."},{"id":1496963,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1496963/?format=json","text_counter":185,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Sen. Crystal Asige","speaker_title":"","speaker":null,"content":"I would like to reiterate that I do have mixed feelings about this Bill, especially because I am somebody who supports persons with disabilities in the country, and one of very few because there are not many of us who represent PWDs in the country. I understand the deep and complex needs that are in these households and families not just for the PWDs themselves, but for their caregivers, their parents and the communities that support them."},{"id":1496964,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1496964/?format=json","text_counter":186,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Sen. Crystal Asige","speaker_title":"","speaker":null,"content":"I think that some of these legislations that we come up with in this House and contribute to and debate on and ultimately pass or not pass, we need to start thinking about them holistically and not from a place of privilege and say things like we are trying to reduce dependency in the country. We are dependent."},{"id":1496965,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1496965/?format=json","text_counter":187,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Sen. Crystal Asige","speaker_title":"","speaker":null,"content":"It is like we are trying to say, I am sure when you had your children when they were still young and they are trying to walk; you will remember that they were struggling, they would crawl. They would try to figure out how are mom and dad walking step by step, left, right, and you would need to give them support for them to give them a hand. That is what I mean. Give them a hand, give them support for them to get to the place where they are walking and no longer crawling. We cannot ask Kenyans to just stand up and walk. That is what this Bill, I feel, is akin to."},{"id":1496966,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1496966/?format=json","text_counter":188,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Sen. Crystal Asige","speaker_title":"","speaker":null,"content":"We are trying to tell Kenyans, okay, this is what is going to happen. We are going to cut or control fundraisers, you need to walk, and you need to stop being dependent on well-wishers or your community. Do it yourself, be independent. However, you cannot be independent without giving people the tools, the process and the pathway to get there. You cannot miss the steps; you have to go from A to Z systematically. You cannot make people try to jump from one point to the next without any support in the middle."},{"id":1496967,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1496967/?format=json","text_counter":189,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Sen. Crystal Asige","speaker_title":"","speaker":null,"content":"I would like to end my contribution there. I am not sure that I support this Bill unless there is some heavy lifting done in the Committee of the Whole stage which is going to come up next. I however appreciate the Senate Majority Leader for what he is trying to do. It is progressive and I thank him for all of his industrious effort."},{"id":1496968,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1496968/?format=json","text_counter":190,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"The Temporary Speaker","speaker_title":"","speaker":null,"content":"(Sen. Wakili Sigei"},{"id":1496969,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1496969/?format=json","text_counter":191,"type":"heading","speaker_name":"","speaker_title":"","speaker":null,"content":")"},{"id":1496970,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1496970/?format=json","text_counter":192,"type":"other","speaker_name":"","speaker_title":"","speaker":null,"content":": Thank you, Sen. Crystal. I call upon Senator James Murango."},{"id":1496971,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1496971/?format=json","text_counter":193,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Sen. (Dr.) Murango","speaker_title":"","speaker":{"id":13585,"legal_name":"Murango James Kamau","slug":"murango-james-kamau"},"content":"Asante sana, Mstahiki Bw. Spika wa Muda. Ingekuwa ni kongamano la walala hoi, maskini ama la makata, Mswada kama huu haungeona mwanga. Lakini katika kongamano la wanaojiweza, madingi na matajri, ni rahisi sana Mswada huu kupita bila shida yoyote."}]}