{"count":1608389,"next":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/?format=json&page=148638","previous":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/?format=json&page=148636","results":[{"id":1504562,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1504562/?format=json","text_counter":473,"type":"scene","speaker_name":"","speaker_title":"","speaker":null,"content":"(Question of the amendment proposed)"},{"id":1504563,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1504563/?format=json","text_counter":474,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"The Temporary Chairlady","speaker_title":"","speaker":null,"content":"(Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai): Hon. Wilberforce Oundo."},{"id":1504564,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1504564/?format=json","text_counter":475,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Funyula, ODM","speaker_title":"Hon. (Dr) Ojiambo Oundo","speaker":null,"content":" Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I know this is pre-empting debate, but we are currently debating the County Governments (Revenue Raising Process) Bill in this House. I hope we will find a way to marry the two. Secondly, we passed the County Governments Licensing (Uniform Procedures) Act that will come into operation on 28th December 2024. I suppose we will find a mechanism of realigning this particular licensing procedure to those two particular Acts once they come into operation."},{"id":1504565,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1504565/?format=json","text_counter":476,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"The Temporary Chairlady","speaker_title":"","speaker":null,"content":"(Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai): Thank you, Hon. Oundo. Hon. Wamuchomba."},{"id":1504566,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1504566/?format=json","text_counter":477,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Githunguri, UDA","speaker_title":"Hon. Gathoni Wamuchomba","speaker":null,"content":" Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I need to get clarification from the Chairman of the Committee so that we do not override an issue of concern. When we are talking about permits, there is a clause I had read - sorry, I do not have my notes with me - which indicated that county governments will be asking for permits for warehousing and at the same time asking for the permits for pulpers. In a situation where a pulper owns a warehouse, we need to be clear so that the pulper does not pay for permit and for a warehousing permit in the same compound. Chairman of the Committee, I would want you to guide us."},{"id":1504567,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1504567/?format=json","text_counter":478,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"The Temporary Chairlady","speaker_title":"","speaker":null,"content":"(Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai): Hon. Melly, let me give you a chance before the Chairman."},{"id":1504568,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1504568/?format=json","text_counter":479,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Tinderet, UDA","speaker_title":"Hon. Julius Melly","speaker":null,"content":" Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairlady. If you look at the sub-clauses the Chairman is amending, he is denying county governments their own dues. Agriculture is a devolved function. We are deleting sub-clause 4 yet the county government officer has also been given permission to inspect warehouses and issue licenses or permits to growers. All these amendments are trying to deny county governments their role. I wanted the Chairman to tell us how else a county government can make sure its roles are carried out if you are denying it the roles by deleting all the subclauses under Clause 28."},{"id":1504569,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1504569/?format=json","text_counter":480,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"The Temporary Chairlady","speaker_title":"","speaker":null,"content":"(Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai): Chairman."},{"id":1504570,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1504570/?format=json","text_counter":481,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"The Temporary Chairlady","speaker_title":"","speaker":null,"content":"The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."},{"id":1504571,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1504571/?format=json","text_counter":482,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Tigania West, UDA","speaker_title":"Hon. (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia","speaker":null,"content":" Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I would like to refer Members to the Second Schedule of the Bill. It is explicitly clear on which licences, permits or certificates would be levied by which organisation. Warehouse licence, coffee nursery certificates, pulping station licence, grower-miller licence, coffee roaster licence, parchment permit from the county of origin, and clean coffee movement permit from the county government of origin will be levied by county governments. We have delineated what is supposed to be where. The Capital Markets Authority will issue two licences. The rest will be issued by the Board. We have not choked county governments. We are only making sure that we do not over-prescribe licences, levies and fees."}]}