{"count":1608389,"next":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/?format=json&page=150671","previous":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/?format=json&page=150669","results":[{"id":1524892,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1524892/?format=json","text_counter":829,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Funyula, ODM","speaker_title":"Hon. (Dr) Ojiambo Oundo","speaker":null,"content":" Hon. Chair, I have keenly listened…"},{"id":1524893,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1524893/?format=json","text_counter":830,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Hon. Speaker","speaker_title":"","speaker":null,"content":"Address the Speaker."},{"id":1524894,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1524894/?format=json","text_counter":831,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Funyula, ODM","speaker_title":"Hon. (Dr) Ojiambo Oundo","speaker":null,"content":" Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I have keenly listened to the sentiments raised by Members, and the presentation by the Whip of the Majority Party. Hon. Chair…"},{"id":1524895,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1524895/?format=json","text_counter":832,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Hon. Speaker","speaker_title":"","speaker":null,"content":"Hon. Speaker. The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."},{"id":1524896,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1524896/?format=json","text_counter":833,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Funyula, ODM","speaker_title":"Hon. (Dr) Ojiambo Oundo","speaker":null,"content":" Sorry, Hon. Speaker. I hope and pray that the statement made by the Majority Party Whip on the issue of appointment of chairpersons and vice-chairpersons is true and not meant for the public gallery. Members of Parliament are here by design, having been elected by their people. Hon. Speaker, we hope and pray that in your wisdom and good guidance to this House, you will not allow, attempt or permit any interference. Where issues are raised, allow the Members to exercise their democratic rights, and elect their leadership without interference from any quarter. I believe and trust that it has gone on The Hansard, and we will have no other interference from any other quarter."},{"id":1524897,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1524897/?format=json","text_counter":834,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Funyula, ODM","speaker_title":"Hon. (Dr) Ojiambo Oundo","speaker":null,"content":"Thank you, Hon. Speaker."},{"id":1524898,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1524898/?format=json","text_counter":835,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Hon. Speaker","speaker_title":"","speaker":null,"content":"Hon. Oundo, the Speaker has no role in the election of chairpersons of committees. I have been in this space for some time. When you go to committees, you have your vote. You are also subject to your whipping, the dynamics of your coalitions and parties. Therefore, I encourage you to leave the Speaker out of this. This is about the various coalitions and political parties in the House. On the point raised by the distinguished Member for Makueni, Hon. Kiamba in the House Business Committee, sits your team leader from Wiper Democratic Movement (WDM), who is also the Deputy Leader of the Minority Party in the Azimio Coalition. He is satisfied with the composition of the committees. Take the argument that you have proposed back to them and let them listen to you. This list was approved by the House Business Committee in which sits all your leadership; the Leader of the Majority Party, Majority Party Whip, Leader of the Minority Party, Minority Party Whip and your team leader within the enclave of WDM. They passed it there. Now that the matter has come to the Floor, you have only two options; to resolve to approve the list or to reject it. If you reject it, your leaders will go back to the drawing board to readjust, refresh and reflect on why the Motion has been negatived. As it is now, the Speaker cannot sit on appeal here. Just as Hon. Ngogoyo raised a good point but in a wrong forum. What is before the House is not a discharge but a reconstitution of Committees. If you have been wrongly discharged from a committee, I will listen to you and look at the provisions of Standing Order 176 then give you the due process that you deserve. As it is now, it is neither here nor there. Yes, Hon. Makali Mulu."},{"id":1524899,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1524899/?format=json","text_counter":836,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Kitui Central, WDM","speaker_title":"Hon. (Dr) Makali Mulu","speaker":null,"content":" Thank you very much, Hon. Speaker. As you have said, some of us have also been in this space for some time. I am not complaining. To me, a committee is a committee. Once you are there you have to serve. However, there are some facts that we must go on record so that as we go into the future, they will inform this House. When the Majority Party Whip was moving this Motion, he did not mention that there were some considerations made because we now have a broad-based Government. I am saying this because I was the Vice-Chairman of the Public Debt and Privatisation Committee for the last two-and-a-half years. As WDM. we agreed that our Members should remain in their respective committees without any movement. I am sure that was the position of my leader in this House, Hon. Mbui. Hon. Speaker, as you can see, I have been moved to another committee. I have no complaints and will serve faithfully. I want leaders in this House to learn. In the 12th Parliament, the Leader of the Majority Party was my Chairman in the Budget and Appropriations Committee. Due to political considerations, he was moved to another committee. I thought that this year he would take this opportunity and make sure that Members are not punished for relating with different individuals. The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."},{"id":1524900,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1524900/?format=json","text_counter":837,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Kitui Central, WDM","speaker_title":"Hon. (Dr) Makali Mulu","speaker":null,"content":"Even though we do not want to say it, the truth of the matter is that if we want this House to move to the next level in terms of democracy, we must allow Members to be in the committees that they request. It is very unfortunate that some Members are in two departmental committees while others are in two select committees. I thought that if they removed me from Public Debt and Privatisation Committee, they should give me a departmental committee so that I can also get a chance to serve there. I have been moved from one select committee to another. I am not complaining and will serve there faithfully. When all is said and done, Makali Mulu has a Doctor of Philosophy (PhD) in Economics. So, I thought I would serve better in Public Debt and Privatisation Committee than in the Committee on Regional Integration. I do not want to go beyond that. I will vote yes for the Motion and I want this to go on record."},{"id":1524901,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1524901/?format=json","text_counter":838,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Hon. Speaker","speaker_title":"","speaker":null,"content":"Thank you, Hon. Makali Mulu. You have put it on record. Again, that is a good point being prosecuted in the wrong forum. That point should be prosecuted in the court of Hon. Robert Mbui, Hon. Millie Odhiambo and Hon. Junet Mohamed and not before the Speaker."}]}