{"count":1608389,"next":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/?format=json&page=154648","previous":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/?format=json&page=154646","results":[{"id":1564662,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1564662/?format=json","text_counter":41,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Hon. Kingi","speaker_title":"The Speaker","speaker":null,"content":" Sen. Enock has not even uttered a word, what is out of order? Sen. Boni, just take your seat."},{"id":1564663,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1564663/?format=json","text_counter":42,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Sen. Wambua","speaker_title":"","speaker":{"id":13199,"legal_name":"Enoch Kiio Wambua","slug":"enoch-kiio-wambua"},"content":"We have relaxed. It is my time now. Thank you, Speaker, Sir. My question flows from the response of the Cabinet Secretary on part (c) of the question asked by Sen. Mbugua on the issue of the ongoing work to integrate disability employment data within the UHRIS. The Cabinet Secretary (CS) has indicated that as things stand now, treatment of issues to do with persons with disability is based on goodwill. He said that right now, there is a transition towards rights-based structure and forcible obligation to persons with disabilities. I want to find out from the CS whether it is the position of the Government that inclusion of persons with disabilities is a goodwill issue and not a matter anchored on the Bill of Rights in Chapter Four and Articles 41 and 54 of the Constitution. I thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir."},{"id":1564664,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1564664/?format=json","text_counter":43,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Hon. Kingi","speaker_title":"The Speaker","speaker":null,"content":" Hon. CS, you may proceed to respond."},{"id":1564665,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1564665/?format=json","text_counter":44,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"The Cabinet Secretary for Labour and Social Protection","speaker_title":"","speaker":null,"content":"(Hon. (Dr.) Alfred Mutua): Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. Sen. Mumma, thank you for your question. I am aware of this because we have had this conversation. You have more experience than most of us. The Ministry has tried as much as possible to use the tools given to human resource agencies when employing. We look at the percentage of people with disability in those companies or institutions based on the employment data that they provide. It is about accountability and access of that information. We also look at procurement. The law is clear that a certain percentage of Government procurement needs to be given to PwDs. So we have been tracking to find out if that is accurate and how it is being done. As I said earlier on, the Act that we had The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."},{"id":1564666,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1564666/?format=json","text_counter":45,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"The Cabinet Secretary for Labour and Social Protection","speaker_title":"","speaker":null,"content":"was weak, but the new Act gives us more tools and ability to do better. I want to thank Sen. Wambua for pointing this out because that is where the dichotomy has been. We have been asking people to do things, but there is no enforcement mechanism hence nothing that can be done to somebody when they do not do what is expected. There was no law, but we have it now. Article 54 of the Constitution is clear about some of these things."},{"id":1564667,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1564667/?format=json","text_counter":46,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"The Cabinet Secretary for Labour and Social Protection","speaker_title":"","speaker":null,"content":"Mr. Speaker, Sir, we also have to be innovative. I will be issuing directives together with the guidelines. I will also bring ideas to this House for you to help us. When I was the Governor of Machakos County, we issued a notice and had all supermarkets and buildings compliant with the law. We woke up one day and shut down a lot of buildings; shops and supermarkets. People complied. We did that because it was important to me and my Government at the time. We want to make this a national issue. I will give you an example of what happens to someone who is visually impaired like Sen. Crystal Asige. When such people go into a building, other people have to know where they are going because they have to ask someone to press the specific button in the lift. It could be that of the third or fifth floor."},{"id":1564668,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1564668/?format=json","text_counter":47,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"The Cabinet Secretary for Labour and Social Protection","speaker_title":"","speaker":null,"content":"I have gone to other countries and realized that things are different over there. You will find that all the lifts have braille, so one just needs to touch and press the floor where they are going to. Those lifts also read out the floors, so someone will know when they should be alighting. We are getting there, but we cannot let the private sector and the public sector do it under goodwill. Therefore, we will give guidelines as Government on what is expected. Ramps have been well enforced all over. I like what Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale talked about. He said that people living with disability have been included and are part of this House. I am sure the Members of this House know that if they are to be on a wheelchair today, they cannot do a banking transaction at an ATM machine in Nairobi. They will have to ask somebody for help. This is because the ATMs are made for people who are able-bodied. Majority of people on wheelchairs cannot reach the ATMs. Countries such as Australia and England have ATMs that consider the lives of people who are living with disabilities. We also need to do that. Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir."},{"id":1564669,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1564669/?format=json","text_counter":48,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Hon. Kingi","speaker_title":"The Speaker","speaker":null,"content":" Hon. Senators, we need to conclude it at that. It is now 10.12 a.m. We will move to the next question. Hon. Senators, for lack of a better word, we have wasted 15 minutes on this question. This is because we did not raise quorum at 9.30 a.m. We started at 9.45 a.m. Hon. Senators, let us be in the House by 9.30 a.m. during question time for us to take full advantage of time and be able to interact with the CSs longer."},{"id":1564670,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1564670/?format=json","text_counter":49,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Hon. Kingi","speaker_title":"The Speaker","speaker":null,"content":"Having lost 15 minutes, at no fault of the CS, we will release the CS at this juncture and usher in the Cabinet Secretary in charge of Cooperatives and Micro and Small Medium Enterprises Development. Hon. CS, you are released. You may leave at your pleasure."},{"id":1564671,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1564671/?format=json","text_counter":50,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Hon. Kingi","speaker_title":"The Speaker","speaker":null,"content":"The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."}]}