{"count":1608389,"next":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/?format=json&page=154761","previous":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/?format=json&page=154759","results":[{"id":1565792,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1565792/?format=json","text_counter":207,"type":"other","speaker_name":"","speaker_title":"","speaker":null,"content":"Have I said something that has offended the Deputy Speaker?"},{"id":1565793,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1565793/?format=json","text_counter":208,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"An hon. Member","speaker_title":"","speaker":null,"content":"There was a fly."},{"id":1565794,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1565794/?format=json","text_counter":209,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Sen. Sifuna","speaker_title":"","speaker":null,"content":"I will proceed as if nothing has happened. If you look at the Committee's observations on Page 7, that the recommendation we have made as a Senate of Kshs465 billion has a science behind it, it is not just a figure that was plucked from the air. The Committee says that the recommendation was informed by the need for county governments to meet new non-discretionary financial Government imposition. Number two, contributions to the National Social Security Fund (NSSF). Number three, matching allocations for the county-integrated industrial parks, which is a programme that was initiated by the national Government, requiring county governments to match them. Lastly, matching allocations for CHPs programme. This responsibility calls upon us as a county government to make sure we pay these CHPs. On the procurement of new medical equipment, when we were in Mandera with Sen. Roba, we were informed that all those beautiful machines in that referral hospital have come to the end of their lease. We need these county hospitals and facilities to be able to acquire new ones. Lastly, meeting the outstanding obligation under Doctor's Collective Bargaining Agreements (CBAs) and Annual Wage Drift. Every single day, including yesterday,"},{"id":1565795,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1565795/?format=json","text_counter":210,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Sen. Sifuna","speaker_title":"","speaker":null,"content":"The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."},{"id":1565796,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1565796/?format=json","text_counter":211,"type":"other","speaker_name":"","speaker_title":"","speaker":null,"content":"May 21, 2025 SENATE DEBATES 28"},{"id":1565797,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1565797/?format=json","text_counter":212,"type":"other","speaker_name":"","speaker_title":"","speaker":null,"content":"medical workers are outside our House here. They were here in Parliament. Sadly, they were tear-gassed by the police. I do not know why, because they have been there every single day for the past three or so months. Today they are here too. We have been told by the leadership of these unions that these CBAs are binding to county governments. I want to plead with the UHC workers, that where we have reached now, the only thing we want to discuss is money. The time for stories is over and the House that handles money is the National Assembly. Let them be protesting there, because we, as a Senate, have done our part. The Chair of the Committee on Finance and Budget must allocate the money that is required to absorb these UHC workers under permanent and pensionable terms. When I was in Garissa, I ran into the Cabinet Secretary for Health. He was also trying to be clever by drawing in the Senate yet we as a Senate have done our job. The Cabinet Secretary Hon. Duale knows very well that the Senate does not appropriate any money. He wants it to look like we are the problem yet the problem and the people with the power of the purse is the National Assembly. Thirdly, there is the question of the MOU, that we signed between ODM and UDA parties. I said I will come back to the Cabinet Secretary Hon. Mbadi, because it has been said out there that I only criticise, but I do not say anything positive about our experts in the Government. The truth of the matter is if you do something that is contrary to what the ODM stands for, it is my responsibility to say that that is against what ODM stands for. When the Cabinet Secretary, Hon. Mbadi, says that in this particular Financial Year, there will be no new taxes he introduces under the Finance Act, that is ODM, that is who we are. We say ‘tick.’ I saw in today's newspaper that he has issued a circular that is going to introduce transparency in the Public-Private Partnership (PPP) process. He has adopted wholesale the recommendations of the Committee of this House on Roads, Transportation and Housing, which was dealing with the Adani question. When we say that, number one, if you are a Government agency that receives a privately initiated proposal on any development, you have a responsibility to disclose that you have received that document. He has adopted that, and as the Secretary General (SG), I say that is ODM. We are for transparency, ‘tick.’ We have said in the Committee where I used to sit when Karungo Thang’wa was the Chair and I was a Member, that after you receive a privately initiated proposal for a PPP, you have to allow other people to give you a better offer. What we called in the Committee the Swiss challenge. I have seen he has put it in the circular. I say that is ODM. We say ‘tick.’ Consequently, on this one here, where he is proposing Kshs405 billion, it is my responsibility to say to the Cabinet Secretary for National Treasury, that is not what ODM has agreed with UDA. We agreed in the MOU and I carry this MOU everywhere I go because I encounter ignorance at all levels. It is my responsibility to make sure that I deal with the ignorance about what this MOU provides for."},{"id":1565798,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1565798/?format=json","text_counter":213,"type":"other","speaker_name":"","speaker_title":"","speaker":null,"content":"The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."},{"id":1565799,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1565799/?format=json","text_counter":214,"type":"other","speaker_name":"","speaker_title":"","speaker":null,"content":"May 21, 2025 SENATE DEBATES 29"},{"id":1565800,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1565800/?format=json","text_counter":215,"type":"other","speaker_name":"","speaker_title":"","speaker":null,"content":"The Senate Majority Leader was with me in Migori County. He told me that he has read this MOU and that it is a good thing. However, he does not understand why it is Sifuna's role to ask people questions. I want to explain a few things to him, unfortunately he has walked out. Number one, if you look at the constitution of ODM, under Article 11, it states the duties of members of ODM. It is our duty as members of a party to understand the programmes and the things that the party gets itself into. Once you have understood, it is a responsibility stated in the constitution to explain what the party is doing. It is my responsibility to explain what we are doing with UDA. Finally, under Article 11, we have a duty to combat propaganda that is detrimental to the interests of ODM. Combat is the word that is used by the constitution. When you combat, you are not required to be nice, although my party leader has asked me to reduce the number of peppers that I put in the soup. Combat means you take it head on the propaganda that is detrimental to the interests of a party. Such propaganda is what the provisions of this document are. Lastly, Article 20 of the constitution of ODM says that the SG of ODM is the depository and custodian ---"},{"id":1565801,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1565801/?format=json","text_counter":216,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Sen. Oketch Gicheru","speaker_title":"","speaker":null,"content":"On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir."}]}