{"count":1608389,"next":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/?format=json&page=155179","previous":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/?format=json&page=155177","results":[{"id":1569972,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1569972/?format=json","text_counter":184,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Sen. Okenyuri","speaker_title":"","speaker":null,"content":"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I would also wish to know from the Cabinet Secretary, in line with what Prof. Tom Ojienda mentioned on capacity building. We have a soapstone mining activity which is more traditional, but I feel like the Ministry is not giving it much attention, like the other mining that happens in other counties. I would wish to know what other special consideration is being given to the soapstone carvers and miners in that region because that is an area, which as a country, we can explore."},{"id":1569973,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1569973/?format=json","text_counter":185,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Sen. Abdul Haji","speaker_title":"","speaker":null,"content":"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. The Cabinet Secretary had responded to the question by Sen. (Prof.) Ojienda regarding environmental impact of miners. In his answer, he elaborated that miners are required to come up with a management plan of the environment. Could the Cabinet Secretary elucidate further in terms of how the Ministry has taken action against miners who leave their environment in a very bad shape after they have conducted their business? Could the Minister tell us in detail measures the Ministry is putting in place to ensure that the environmental impact left by the miners is adequately addressed?"},{"id":1569974,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1569974/?format=json","text_counter":186,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Hon. Kingi","speaker_title":"The Speaker","speaker":null,"content":" Hon. Cabinet Secretary, you have three minutes to respond."},{"id":1569975,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1569975/?format=json","text_counter":187,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Hon. Hassan Ali Joho","speaker_title":"The Cabinet Secretary for Ministry of Mining, Blue Economy and Maritime Affairs","speaker":null,"content":" Mr. Speaker, Sir, if you will allow me, I would like to start with the last question by Sen. Haji. I think it is an important one. One of the reasons we have had to stop some mining operations such as the one for gypsum is because of how the mining activities had been conducted earlier. The gypsum one, it is in the manner where the mining activities had been conducted earlier. Lands have been turned to barren land and abandoned quarries. It is interesting because the pastoralist communities such as those in Garissa and Tana River and others suffer lots of losses because of losing livestock that fall into the pits. That is one of the reasons we have cancelled operations. What we are doing is to enforce. Initially, the Ministry did not have an enforcement unit. We had a police unit, an AP unit, but now we have the DCI Unit that pursues those culprits that did that and were taking them through necessary action. So, I want to assure you, Senator, that there is some cause we are following. Sen. Okenyuri, you asked about soapstone. We treat all miners the same. Artisanal miners, a decision that was made is across all minerals. There is no specific treatment for a specific mineral. So, I just want to assure you that we have considered all minerals and practices by artisanal, and all of them have been put in cooperatives and capacity build them, so that they can aggregate and access market easily. So, even licensing, we use the same procedures and protocols to ensure everybody gets licensed. Mr. Sifuna asked me about the royalties. I share your concerns, Senator, and I am already now negotiating with the respective committee of the National Assembly to undertake some reforms. This is to ensure that when royalties are paid, they are disbursed to the rightful places on time, so that communities do not have to depend on the treasury. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."},{"id":1569976,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1569976/?format=json","text_counter":188,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Hon. Hassan Ali Joho","speaker_title":"The Cabinet Secretary for Ministry of Mining, Blue Economy and Maritime Affairs","speaker":null,"content":"Obviously, I will be consulting and seeking your support to be able to amend the law, so that if someone pays royalty, 70 per cent goes to the national Government, 20 per cent should go to counties, and 20 per cent should go to communities and CDAC. One per cent gross should directly go to the community. So, this is a matter that requires reform in our law. I am already in discussion with the relevant Committee in the National Assembly, and looking forward to engaging you, the Senate. Sen. Olekina, I am not so sure whether you are right by saying Narok may be the biggest gold producer. We really do not have the data, but that said and done, you still deserve to be paid royalties on time. Senator, I took the decision of terminating some of the licenses because of failure to comply with royalties payment. I am glad that you worked with us in Narok and supported us, and now we are in the process of identifying good and reliable companies that will take the liabilities of the periods of companies, pay the communities, fulfill the obligations, and be able to get a fresh license. So, I also identify with your sentiments, and this is something that we are doing. Sen. Makau, my brother, on Kitui mining, particularly on copper. Kitui is endowed with lots of resources and copper is one of the most important and critical minerals around the world today. When we came in, we found that there was a lot of export of copper ore. We took a decision as a Ministry, stopped the export of copper ore, and as we speak, there is not a single tonnage of copper that is exported. Therefore, we are slowly managing extraction of our copper. What we are doing as a Ministry today is to consider the entire value chain. That means that if we have copper deposits in the country, we should be able to move it to copper concentrate and copper cathode to be able to achieve job creation and wealth creation. So, Senator, I assure you, the ones that had been mining earlier, we are pursuing them through our DCI unit. The ones that are doing today, we have now deployed districts mining officers to ensure there are no illegal activities. We are also working with the NGAOs in the districts, so that we can tame these illegal mining activities. The Senator for Tana River, my brother, umeniuliza mambo ya gypsum, it is the"},{"id":1569977,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1569977/?format=json","text_counter":189,"type":"scene","speaker_name":"","speaker_title":"","speaker":null,"content":"same problem"},{"id":1569978,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1569978/?format=json","text_counter":190,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Hon. Hassan Ali Joho","speaker_title":"The Cabinet Secretary for Ministry of Mining, Blue Economy and Maritime Affairs","speaker":null,"content":". Swali lilikuwa tu lile la uchimbaji mbaya wa madini. Kampuni nyingi ambazo zili-reaply, haziwezi k uqualif y kwa sababu waliwacha the mines ambazo walikuwa nazo awali kwa hali ambayo haistahili. So, for Tana River, tumepeana leseni kama nne hivi za gypsum baada ya ushauriano na the local leadership ; Mjumbe, MCAs na by extension, the county. So, kuna operations ambazo zimeanza – about fourcompanies . Nataka kuwahakikishia ya kwamba shida ya mining ilikuwa – na hiyo pia inahusisha Garissa – watu walikuwa wanachimba gypsum kutumia a mining permit . Kwa"},{"id":1569979,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1569979/?format=json","text_counter":191,"type":"scene","speaker_name":"","speaker_title":"","speaker":null,"content":"mining permit"},{"id":1569980,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1569980/?format=json","text_counter":192,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Hon. Hassan Ali Joho","speaker_title":"The Cabinet Secretary for Ministry of Mining, Blue Economy and Maritime Affairs","speaker":null,"content":", huzungumzi na jamii. You do not need community consent to get a miningpermit. Sasa tumegraduate hiyo iwe a mining license whereas communities ni lazima wahusishwe. So, I want to assure you, Sen. Mungatana, that we are on course in ensuring people adhere to the rule of law and participation of the community. I submit, Mr. Speaker, Sir."},{"id":1569981,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1569981/?format=json","text_counter":193,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Hon. Kingi","speaker_title":"The Speaker","speaker":null,"content":" Thank you, Hon. CS. We will now move to Question No.047 by the Sen. Miraj Abdullahi. You may proceed to ask your question. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."}]}