{"count":1608389,"next":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/?format=json&page=155201","previous":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/?format=json&page=155199","results":[{"id":1570192,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1570192/?format=json","text_counter":83,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Sen. Wambua","speaker_title":"","speaker":null,"content":"I am wondering what magic you will employ that will get all of us to sit, consult and agree."},{"id":1570193,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1570193/?format=json","text_counter":84,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Sen. Wambua","speaker_title":"","speaker":null,"content":"The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."},{"id":1570194,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1570194/?format=json","text_counter":85,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Sen. Wambua","speaker_title":"","speaker":null,"content":"Mr. Speaker, Sir, this is an important matter, but it is as important as the attention that we give to it. If we honestly wanted to deal with this matter, all of us should have been here at 7.00 a.m., to address this issue. There is business that is pending in the Order Paper for so long. If we keep adjourning debate to deal with issues that people are not very keen on dealing with, then I do not know what we will to do. My point is that the opportunity was given to us twice and we did not take it. How many more times do we need to come and address those issues? Thank you."},{"id":1570195,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1570195/?format=json","text_counter":86,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Hon. Kingi","speaker_title":"The Speaker","speaker":null,"content":" The Majority Leader."},{"id":1570196,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1570196/?format=json","text_counter":87,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Sen. Cheruiyot","speaker_title":"The Senate Majority Leader","speaker":null,"content":" If I can probably provide a way out and for the comfort of Sen. Osotsi, Sen. Kinyua and the rest of the Members that I know have a position they are trying to canvass. First of all, I associate myself with the comments of Sen. Wambua. It would have been important that you be here today in the morning as a sign of commitment to your constituents because we had a lengthy discussion. However, that is neither here nor there. What we resolved in that meeting is that the Senators that have a contrary position to what the Committee is proposing to convince the rest of us by way of permutations done by the Parliamentary Budget Office (PBO). As you make your submissions to the Motion, you inform the House why you disagree with the formula and why the formula you are now proposing serves us better. If you have a good formula and better than what the Committee is proposing, that secures the interest of your particular region or the counties that you are proposing, we will listen to them. However, we felt that it will be unfair to the Committee to continue discussing this matter without it finding its way substantively before the Floor of this House. The practice has always been - and this is a practice adopted in the second and in the third generation and now, that we are doing the fourth - once the Motion is moved, you prepare your notes, Sen. Osotsi, together with permutations calculated for you by the PBO, come and circulate. Then you can convince us. I believe that is what Sen. Omogeni is doing. He is not here because he was part of the Kamukunji . I request that we make progress. We allow the Chairperson to move, the Motion be seconded then deliberations can begin. We are not about to vote this afternoon, Sen. Osotsi. You still have time maybe between today, tomorrow or Thursday, who knows, to convince the rest of the House. Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir."},{"id":1570197,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1570197/?format=json","text_counter":88,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Hon. Kingi","speaker_title":"The Speaker","speaker":null,"content":" We will lastly hear from the Senator for Nairobi City County."},{"id":1570198,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1570198/?format=json","text_counter":89,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Sen. Sifuna","speaker_title":"","speaker":null,"content":"Mr. Speaker, Sir, I do not understand the anxiety from some of our colleagues. I do not know what we have said or done to make them believe that we cannot be persuaded. I am personally here to be persuaded by the arguments that are advanced on this Floor. If you remember, the first time this matter was supposed to be on the Order Paper, you gave a communication and said that you wanted an opportunity for this House to talk within itself for us to avoid the acrimony of the last formula. We all agreed to that."},{"id":1570199,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1570199/?format=json","text_counter":90,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Sen. Sifuna","speaker_title":"","speaker":null,"content":"The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."},{"id":1570200,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1570200/?format=json","text_counter":91,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Sen. Sifuna","speaker_title":"","speaker":null,"content":"To the credit of the Committee on Finance and Budget, they have organized forums for us to have this conversation twice, including this morning. I did not see my Deputy Party Leader in that meeting. The way forward that has been given by the Senate Majority Leader will solve the problem for us. Let us hear from the Committee and everybody. Let us try to persuade each other."},{"id":1570201,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1570201/?format=json","text_counter":92,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Sen. Sifuna","speaker_title":"","speaker":null,"content":"Personally, I do not like people playing cards under the table. The good thing is that Sen. Osotsi knows me. When I feel that one is trying to be clever with me, I become a bit upset. I feel like there are people who have an agenda that they do not want to disclose. Let them persuade us here. We are amenable to be persuaded and Sen. Osotsi knows that. I thank you."}]}