{"count":1608389,"next":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/?format=json&page=155358","previous":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/?format=json&page=155356","results":[{"id":1571762,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1571762/?format=json","text_counter":268,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Nominated, UDA","speaker_title":"Hon. (Dr) Jackson Kosgei","speaker":null,"content":"The question before us should not be whether to have NGCF or NGAAF. Rather, how to enhance devolution. This is one way of boosting the right of citizens to participate in an equitable manner through legal and practical means. This afternoon, as we undertake to have the Funds entrenched in the Constitution, I appeal to all Kenyans of goodwill to appreciate that this is one way of enhancing devolution in our country. With that, Hon. Temporary Speaker, I thank you."},{"id":1571763,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1571763/?format=json","text_counter":269,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Hon. Martha Wangari","speaker_title":"The Temporary Speaker","speaker":null,"content":" Very well. The Member for Teso North, Hon. Kaunya."},{"id":1571764,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1571764/?format=json","text_counter":270,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Teso North, ODM","speaker_title":"Hon. Oku Kaunya","speaker":null,"content":" Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I wish to add my voice to this debate. I support the Constitution of Kenya (Amendment) Bill (National Assembly Bill No. 4 of 2025) to entrench NGCF, NGAAF and the Senate Oversight Fund into the Constitution. I want to emphasise one important thing that NG-CDF has done in the country. It brought inclusivity and equity. It has provided resources to communities like the Teso and marginalised constituencies like mine. I want to give an example of when I came to Parliament in 2017. Teso North Constituency had no government training institution or college since independence. Through NG-CDF we established a committee to work around the clock. It has established four institutions that have over 4,000 students such as the Kenya Medical Training College (KMTC) with over 700 students. The students walk from their homes in the villages to the colleges. Therefore, the cost of training has gone down. Even poor sections of the community can access education. We have a Technical Training Institute (TTI) with over 3,000 students. We established a National Youth Service institution operationalised through NG-CDF. We have also established a campus of Kenya Institute of Highway and Building Technology (KIHBT). Without NG-CDF many marginalised areas in this country would not have developed. Therefore, entrenchment of NGCF in the Constitution is key. It will ensure that there is inclusivity and equity in development. Secondly, the entrenchment of these Funds will alleviate poverty in affected areas. Children who are unable to access education because of poverty are provided with bursaries. Only NG-CDF bursaries are felt on the ground. So, we need to enhance the bursaries allocation. Again, I can give the example of my constituency. More than 2,000 students have been fully sponsored by NG-CDF to undertake different courses in various colleges. More than 30,000 students have benefited from bursaries and are able to remain in school. Apart from sponsorship of students, NG-CDF has improved the infrastructure of schools. I support the idea of entrenching this Fund. This is because Kenya has been experimenting development strategies so as to progress. At Independence, there was Sessional Paper No. 5 on African Socialism and its Application to Development in Kenya. One of the things we were trying to experiment then was to see how best we could achieve equity, development and distribution of resources as well as political devolution. We talked of regionalism. Over time, in the 1980s we had The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."},{"id":1571765,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1571765/?format=json","text_counter":271,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Teso North, ODM","speaker_title":"Hon. Oku Kaunya","speaker":null,"content":"the District Development Committees (DDC). I happen to have been a District Commissioner (DC) during those times. The DDC was an instrument that the Government used to ensure participation by local leadership and departments at the district level in planning and distribution of resources. Devolution brought in counties. The whole experiment of counties and NG-CDF is a progression. As of today, NG-CDF has proved to be working. Therefore, we need to entrench it in the Constitution, especially now that we have counties as devolved units. After entrenching this Fund, we should consider entrenching the Ward Development Fund to ensure that devolved funds allocated to county governments reach the grassroots. So, as NG-CDF reaches constituencies, we want county government funds to also reach the wards. So, the public can really feel the development. Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker, for this opportunity. I support the entrenchment of NGCF, NGAAF and SOF in the Constitution. I urge all Members to turn up so that we give the Bill the two-thirds support."},{"id":1571766,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1571766/?format=json","text_counter":272,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Hon. Martha Wangari","speaker_title":"The Temporary Speaker","speaker":null,"content":" Member for Mandera. She has walked out. Member for Kwanza."},{"id":1571767,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1571767/?format=json","text_counter":273,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Kwanza, ODM","speaker_title":"Hon. Ferdinand Wanyonyi","speaker":null,"content":" Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker for the lovely opportunity. First and foremost, I want to thank the two Members, Hon. Chepkonga and Hon. Otiende, for coming up with this Bill so we can entrench NGCF in the Constitution. A lot has been said about this. The ones opposing NG-CDF, NGAAF and SOF are those who stay in Nairobi. They do not go back home so they do not know what is happening there. I met one of them, a very senior lawyer and I asked him how he was doing. He said, that he has not gone back home for a while to see exactly what NG-CDF and NGAAF has done. This is an opportunity for this House to entrench these Funds in the Constitution. Let us forget about the noise being made out there. Those people do not know what they are talking about. They are talking for the sake of it and to make their presence felt. Some of them are very senior lawyers. Without NG-CDF, it means we will go back to holding harambees to support school children. Parents will be asking Members of Parliament to support their children. NG-CDF has already taken care of this. I do not get involved at all in its management. All I do is oversight. The Fund has done a very good job. It is broad based even the sub-county commissioner is involved. The NG-CDF committee is very representative. I come from Trans-Nzoia a small county in Kenya. We have had good representation and have done a lot. Go to Kwanza or any constituencies in this country and see what NG-CDF has done. In the absence of NG-CDF, we will go back to harambees to build classrooms and toilets. With NG-CDF, all you need to do is to get information from the school committee about what they want. Some people want NG-CDF to go to counties. It is a joke. In my county, there is no construction of ECDE classes. What does this mean? You will be enabling the governors to use the money as they want. There are have been cases in court where they have been accused of misusing money. In fact, as we are talking, my governor is in trouble because of misuse of money. Assuming you take away NG-CDF from five constituencies in the county. What will you get? Nothing but court cases. Hon. Temporary Speaker, let us entrench these Funds in the Constitution. We are not begging anybody; it is our right. We want to avoid the problems we have had in the past like"},{"id":1571768,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1571768/?format=json","text_counter":274,"type":"scene","speaker_name":"","speaker_title":"","speaker":null,"content":"harambees."},{"id":1571769,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1571769/?format=json","text_counter":275,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Kwanza, ODM","speaker_title":"Hon. Ferdinand Wanyonyi","speaker":null,"content":"For those who do not know, some of us have been here for quite some time. We can recall the days when we were asked to build school toilets and we had to hold a harambee . We do The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."},{"id":1571770,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1571770/?format=json","text_counter":276,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Kwanza, ODM","speaker_title":"Hon. Ferdinand Wanyonyi","speaker":null,"content":"not want to bring that back. Each one of us has an opportunity to vote in the afternoon for these Fund to be entrenched in the Constitution."},{"id":1571771,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1571771/?format=json","text_counter":277,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Kwanza, ODM","speaker_title":"Hon. Ferdinand Wanyonyi","speaker":null,"content":"I also take this opportunity to remind citizens that we are not involved in the running of NG-CDF. We only oversight. I have not heard of anybody being taken to court for misusing NG- CDF or NGAAF. The Senate Oversight Fund will assist Senators to oversight counties and sub- counties. Let us pass this Bill in the afternoon."}]}