{"count":1608389,"next":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/?format=json&page=156822","previous":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/?format=json&page=156820","results":[{"id":1586402,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1586402/?format=json","text_counter":809,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Kinangop, JP","speaker_title":"Hon. Kwenya Thuku","speaker":null,"content":" Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairman. This is a very pertinent issue raised by Members. When dealing with ring-fenced expenditure for clearly defined items such as digitisation or our international obligations, these are costs that can be quantified. As such, there should be no need for ring-fencing. The KRA should simply appear before the Budget and Appropriation Committee, state the amount they require, and have it appropriated by this House in the normal manner."},{"id":1586403,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1586403/?format=json","text_counter":810,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Hon. David Ochieng’","speaker_title":"The Temporary Chairman","speaker":null,"content":" Thank you. Member for Dagoretti North."},{"id":1586404,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1586404/?format=json","text_counter":811,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Dagoretti North, ODM","speaker_title":"Hon. Beatrice Elachi","speaker":null,"content":" Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairman. It is not that we are being hard on the Chairman. However, when you have funds being ring-fenced for the African Union, when this House could instead create a single vote item for all international organisations, it becomes questionable. We have institutions such as the East African Legislative Assembly (EALA). Why prioritise AU and leave out EALA? These are all multilateral organisations. This implies that EALA has a vote, yet the African Union, by extension, should not even fall under this portfolio. It should be under the Ministry of Foreign and Diaspora Affairs. Honestly, this is how we budget ourselves into crisis."},{"id":1586405,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1586405/?format=json","text_counter":812,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Hon. David Ochieng’","speaker_title":"The Temporary Chairman","speaker":null,"content":" Chairman of the Departmental Committee on Finance and National Planning."},{"id":1586406,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1586406/?format=json","text_counter":813,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Molo, UDA","speaker_title":"Hon. Kuria Kimani","speaker":null,"content":" Hon. Temporary Chairman, this is the beauty of our democracy; engaging in such robust and constructive debate. I understand where the Chairman of the Budget and Appropriation Committee is coming from."},{"id":1586407,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1586407/?format=json","text_counter":814,"type":"scene","speaker_name":"","speaker_title":"","speaker":null,"content":"(Hon. Samuel Atandi and Hon. Peter Kaluma consulted loudly)"},{"id":1586408,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1586408/?format=json","text_counter":815,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Hon. David Ochieng’","speaker_title":"The Temporary Chairman","speaker":null,"content":" Order! Hon. Kaluma and Hon. Atandi, you must listen to the Chairman."},{"id":1586409,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1586409/?format=json","text_counter":816,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Molo, UDA","speaker_title":"Hon. Kuria Kimani","speaker":null,"content":" Unfortunately, he just became the Chairman of the Budget and Appropriation Committee the other day. He aggregates the whole budget. The State departments under the National Treasury, including KRA, fall under the oversight of the Departmental Committee on Finance and National Planning."},{"id":1586410,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1586410/?format=json","text_counter":817,"type":"scene","speaker_name":"","speaker_title":"","speaker":null,"content":"(Hon. Samuel Atandi spoke off the record)"},{"id":1586411,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1586411/?format=json","text_counter":818,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Molo, UDA","speaker_title":"Hon. Kuria Kimani","speaker":null,"content":"Hold your horses, Hon. Atandi. I will explain it to you. The resource requirement presented to our Committee by KRA stands at Ksh56 billion. The KRA does not report to the Budget and Appropriation Committee. It reports to the Departmental Committee on Finance and National Planning, which is the relevant sectoral committee. Out of the Ksh56 billion requested, we were only able to accommodate Ksh32 billion. The KRA has made it clear that while we expect them to play a major role in revenue collection, they are operating without essential provisions, such as medical insurance. Following discussions with the Budget and Appropriation The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."}]}