{"count":1608389,"next":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/?format=json&page=156866","previous":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/?format=json&page=156864","results":[{"id":1586842,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1586842/?format=json","text_counter":1249,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Hon. Ali Raso","speaker_title":"","speaker":null,"content":"So, for that reason, I oppose the Bill."},{"id":1586843,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1586843/?format=json","text_counter":1250,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Hon. Omboko Milemba","speaker_title":"The Temporary Speaker","speaker":null,"content":" Hon. Mwashako."},{"id":1586844,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1586844/?format=json","text_counter":1251,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Wundanyi, WDM","speaker_title":"Hon. Danson Mwashako","speaker":null,"content":" Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I will be very brief. I stand to support this Bill. As I support this Bill, I need to bring out a few issues that concern this Bill."},{"id":1586845,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1586845/?format=json","text_counter":1252,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Wundanyi, WDM","speaker_title":"Hon. Danson Mwashako","speaker":null,"content":"One, the first marginalisation policy identified 14 counties to be the beneficiaries of Article 204, where Equalisation Fund is based. Counties like Taita-Taveta used to get in excess of Ksh700 million annually. In the Bill that we are passing today, Taita Taveta has only Ksh21 million. This is extremely sad, taking into account the fact that Taita Taveta was identified as the first 14 counties that lagged behind because previous governments before devolution did not identify themselves with other counties that were far from Nairobi. As I support, I know the CRA will be sitting to do a new marginalisation policy in the next few months and I want to request this House that we revert to the 14 counties, so that the real marginalisation that has happened since Independence can be cured by these funds that are there to achieve equity and equalisation in the country. I support this Bill. The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."},{"id":1586846,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1586846/?format=json","text_counter":1253,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Wundanyi, WDM","speaker_title":"Hon. Danson Mwashako","speaker":null,"content":"I am happy that the Leader of the Majority Party is here. I urge that we ensure the next policy reverts to the 14 counties, so that we can bring meaning to this. As I conclude, if we are not careful, in another 20-30 years to come, we will still do another Equalisation Fund if we do not achieve equity in our resource distribution as a country. When budgeting in this House, we must consider equity as we distribute resources."},{"id":1586847,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1586847/?format=json","text_counter":1254,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Hon. Omboko Milemba","speaker_title":"The Temporary Speaker","speaker":null,"content":" Mover."},{"id":1586848,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1586848/?format=json","text_counter":1255,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Alego Usonga, ODM","speaker_title":"Hon. Samuel Atandi","speaker":null,"content":" Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. With your kind permission, I would like to donate one minute to Dr Makali Mulu to make one point. One minute, please."},{"id":1586849,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1586849/?format=json","text_counter":1256,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Kitui Central, WDM","speaker_title":"Hon. (Dr) Makali Muluu","speaker":null,"content":" Thank you so much, Hon. Temporary Speaker and my Chairman. One point which has not clearly come out is the issue that, as a result of the second marginalisation policy, we moved from 14 counties to 34 counties, and we moved to 107 constituencies and 1,024 sub-locations. This has pushed the projects to be so small in terms of size, hence, minimal impact. If we want to help these areas, the next marginalisation policy should factor in the issue of projects with a higher impact. Unless we do that, this will remain a problem. This House must focus on two issues. Firstly, it should ensure that the third marginalisation policy captures the interest of all the Members who have spoken here, so that we have a clear way forward. Secondly, the Equilasation Fund was to last 20 years, and we have already done 15 years with minimal impact. We only have five years to go. I do not know whether, as a House, we would want to extend that time to 40 years. This is something we have to think through. I submit, Hon. Temporary Speaker."},{"id":1586850,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1586850/?format=json","text_counter":1257,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Alego Usonga, ODM","speaker_title":"Hon. Samuel Atandi","speaker":null,"content":" Hon. Temporary Speaker, once again, let me donate another one minute to Hon. Jematiah."},{"id":1586851,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1586851/?format=json","text_counter":1258,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Baringo County, UDA","speaker_title":"Hon. Jematiah Sergon","speaker":null,"content":" Thank you so much, Hon. Temporary Speaker. Thank you, Chairman, for donating your time. The framers of the Constitution took their time and understood the importance of equalisation. We should continue using the same frame of the Constitution that earmarked the 14 counties from the beginning to enable them to fully develop, when allocating. As much as we also agree that there are parts of the country that are continuously marginalised, using their perimeters, if the initial policy is followed well when allocating resources, we will be able to uplift this country to almost the same levels. Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker and Hon. Chairman."}]}