{"count":1608389,"next":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/?format=json&page=157097","previous":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/?format=json&page=157095","results":[{"id":1589152,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1589152/?format=json","text_counter":193,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Sen. Mwaruma","speaker_title":"","speaker":null,"content":"The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."},{"id":1589153,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1589153/?format=json","text_counter":194,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Hon. Kingi","speaker_title":"The Speaker","speaker":null,"content":" Hon. Senators, the Motion as proposed by Sen. Methu has been dispensed with. We are not going to amend midway. Senator for Nairobi City County, you may proceed."},{"id":1589154,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1589154/?format=json","text_counter":195,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Sen. Sifuna","speaker_title":"","speaker":null,"content":"Mr. Speaker, Sir, when we come here and take oath to uphold the law, there really is no room for sentiment. You have to do what is right by the law. It does not matter what personal feelings you have. In fact, I have a problem with the way this Motion was framed. The question as to whether there was a sitting on the 26th has already been answered by the Assembly itself. The Assembly has told us that, in fact, there was no sitting on the 26th because of the circumstances. That is the truth. Secondly, there is reason why I feel like this is a moot question. As a lawyer, I took an oath on 2nd October in 2008, to uphold the Constitution and the law. Impeachment processes are guided by the Constitution and the law. If a court of competent jurisdiction has said it does not matter whether there was a sitting on 26th or not, whatever happened on that day is null and void, then there is nothing to discuss. It is that simple. Mr. Speaker, Sir, for me, I am clear in my mind there has been a tacit concession by the Assembly that there was no sitting. There is a second limb that there is a court decision---"},{"id":1589155,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1589155/?format=json","text_counter":196,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Hon. Kingi","speaker_title":"The Speaker","speaker":null,"content":" The Senator for Nairobi City County, that is the second Motion that is yet to be moved."},{"id":1589156,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1589156/?format=json","text_counter":197,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Sen. Sifuna","speaker_title":"","speaker":null,"content":"I understand that these two matters are related."},{"id":1589157,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1589157/?format=json","text_counter":198,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Hon. Kingi","speaker_title":"The Speaker","speaker":null,"content":" I have given guidance."},{"id":1589158,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1589158/?format=json","text_counter":199,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Sen. Sifuna","speaker_title":"","speaker":null,"content":"Mr. Speaker, Sir, I was speaking to the Motion which is whether there was a sitting and the question of whether it is a question to be put is what I am addressing, with due respect. I have heard senior colleagues in the profession and I have tremendous respect for all of them. It will be the darkest day for me as a lawyer who is an appointed officer of the court; the person who has been crying all over the place saying we need to respect the rule of law and that the cornerstone of the rule of law is obedience of court orders. I was one of the lawyers for Miguna Miguna. We got almost 12 court orders. They were all disobeyed by some people who are now running around telling us about court orders in this country. For me, the question as to whether there was a sitting has already been answered by the Assembly and the HANSARD can be played back. You will hear Counsel admitting that, in fact, the circumstances on that day did not favour a sitting. They have had to go, repair and look for HANSARD material because of those circumstances they have told us about. It does not matter if you do not follow procedure. There are conversations that the Senate Majority Leader was inviting us to have, but we have committees of this House whose work is to look into affairs of county governments. We have done that in the County of Nyamira. Mr. Speaker, Sir, my position is that I am not convinced that there was a sitting on 26th June to do this impeachment and having that process-- The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."},{"id":1589159,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1589159/?format=json","text_counter":200,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Hon. Kingi","speaker_title":"The Speaker","speaker":null,"content":" The Senator for Nairobi City County, take your seat. Sen. Mandago, what is your point of order?"},{"id":1589160,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1589160/?format=json","text_counter":201,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Sen. Mandago","speaker_title":"","speaker":null,"content":"Mr. Speaker, Sir, I did not want to interrupt lawyer Sen. Sifuna, but I believe I heard clearly the County Assembly said there was a sitting only that there was destruction of the HANSARD evidence. It cannot be true to say that there was no sitting."},{"id":1589161,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1589161/?format=json","text_counter":202,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Hon. Kingi","speaker_title":"The Speaker","speaker":null,"content":" Is that a point of information?"}]}