{"count":1608389,"next":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/?format=json&page=159565","previous":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/?format=json&page=159563","results":[{"id":1613832,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1613832/?format=json","text_counter":251,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Sen. M. Kajwang’","speaker_title":"","speaker":null,"content":"President Ruto, this is what we mean when we talk about being faithful to the Constitution and devolution. Talk to the right institutions that have the constitutional mandate. The Council of Governors (CoG) is nowhere in the Constitution when it comes to division and allocation of revenue. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."},{"id":1613833,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1613833/?format=json","text_counter":252,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Sen. M. Kajwang’","speaker_title":"","speaker":null,"content":"I thank you."},{"id":1613834,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1613834/?format=json","text_counter":253,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Sen. Mumma","speaker_title":"The Temporary Speaker","speaker":null,"content":" Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, please proceed."},{"id":1613835,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1613835/?format=json","text_counter":254,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Sen. (Dr) Khalwale","speaker_title":"","speaker":null,"content":"Madam Temporary Speaker, this Motion before us reminds me of what my teacher of English who taught me the art of smart negotiation told me many years ago. He warned us that; give someone an inch and they will take a mile. Those are not my words, but those of the late Edward Adwanyiga, the man who taught me English. I am saying this because I am one of the proponents of this affirmative action and when we did it as a Committee, we carefully looked at quantum. I am impressed that young Moses has captured the principle of quantum. That if it is Kshs2 billion, it makes sense, but if you just open it up, it will end up disenfranchising other counties. I want to beg the 11 Senators, we have given you an inch that makes a huge difference. Please do not attempt to take a mile by asking for Kshs4.6 billion. Let us do this because the Constitution of Kenya leaves no lacuna on how the money should be shared both in the letter and in the spirit. The letter is very clear. It is the principle of equity and not equality. So as to buttress it further into the spirit of the Constitution, we have said let the equal share be increased, but not be a threat to the principle of equality. We have done it in this fourth formula. In the eye of the Senate through the Committee, we have said let no county lose or be left behind. So, Sen. Omogeni, the mover of the Motion, let me take you to just two examples. The eye of the Committee is saying that let us not leave these 11 counties behind. Let us hold their hands. You have done it; we have held your hand. In this simulation, look at county number 35, Nyandarua. Young Methu is not here. He is busy in Wamunyoro, but I can speak for him. I wish somebody could remind him to go to Wamunyoro when the Senate is not sitting. This is where you have the highest political platform in the country, far more than in the funerals where some of us speak, in the bullfighting arena where we speak, in the harambees where some of us rarely go because we do not have the money, but not in Wamunyoro."},{"id":1613836,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1613836/?format=json","text_counter":255,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Sen. Munyi Mundigi","speaker_title":"","speaker":null,"content":"On a point or order, Madam Temporary Speaker."},{"id":1613837,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1613837/?format=json","text_counter":256,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Sen. (Dr) Khalwale","speaker_title":"","speaker":null,"content":"I have not touched you. What is out of order?"},{"id":1613838,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1613838/?format=json","text_counter":257,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Sen. Mumma","speaker_title":"The Temporary Speaker","speaker":null,"content":" What is your point of order, Sen. Mundigi?"},{"id":1613839,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1613839/?format=json","text_counter":258,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Sen. Munyi Mundigi","speaker_title":"","speaker":null,"content":"Bi. Spika wa Muda, nataka kumuelezea Sen. (Dr) Khalwale kwamba mtu awe wa Wamunyoro ama wa chama gani, tukiwa hapa tunawakilisha kaunti 47. Kwa hivyo, kama kuna Seneta ambaye hayuko hapa---"},{"id":1613840,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1613840/?format=json","text_counter":259,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Sen. Mumma","speaker_title":"The Temporary Speaker","speaker":null,"content":" Sen. Mundigi, can you explain what you are saying? What is Wamunyoro and what is your point of order?"},{"id":1613841,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1613841/?format=json","text_counter":260,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Sen. Munyi Mundigi","speaker_title":"","speaker":null,"content":"Seneta Khalwale amesema mambo ya hizi kaunti 11 zinataka kuongezewe pesa, lakini Maseneta wengine wa hizi kaunti wako kwa Wamunyoro. Ningetaka kumwambia kwamba, tuko na kaunti 47 na hatuko mambo ya Wamunyoro. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."}]}