{"count":1608389,"next":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/?format=json&page=160542","previous":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/?format=json&page=160540","results":[{"id":1623602,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1623602/?format=json","text_counter":96,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Sen. Kathuri","speaker_title":"The Deputy Speaker","speaker":null,"content":" Sen. Dullo!"},{"id":1623603,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1623603/?format=json","text_counter":97,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Sen. Dullo","speaker_title":"","speaker":null,"content":"He must be brought to book because he is killing our youth and stealing our funds in Isiolo County. I thank you."},{"id":1623604,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1623604/?format=json","text_counter":98,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Sen. Kathuri","speaker_title":"The Deputy Speaker","speaker":null,"content":" Sen. Dullo, do not be encouraged by the Senate Majority Leader to disobey the Chair. I will allow two Senators to contribute."},{"id":1623605,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1623605/?format=json","text_counter":99,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Sen. (Prof.) Kamar","speaker_title":"","speaker":null,"content":"Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, for this opportunity. I rise to support the statement and condemn the actions of the Governor of Isiolo County in the strongest terms possible. It is very sad that a governor who is supposed to be his Excellency can talk such a language in front of children and grown-ups. They are words that cannot be repeated in this House. We cannot repeat those words, but we have them on our social media. It is a shame. I started by sympathizing with the people of Isiolo County. How did they go to the polling station in the morning to vote for such a man? Were they conned to believe that they were voting for an honourable member? It is a shame."},{"id":1623606,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1623606/?format=json","text_counter":100,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Sen. (Prof.) Kamar","speaker_title":"","speaker":null,"content":"I only have two things to say. Number one, is the attack that he made included threats. We cannot allow him to use youths or incite youths in this country, to go after The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."},{"id":1623607,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1623607/?format=json","text_counter":101,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Sen. (Prof.) Kamar","speaker_title":"","speaker":null,"content":"women leaders. This country is democratic. If he had anything to say, he should have said it in a manner that would have corrected what he wanted to correct. However, it is unacceptable for him to tell young people to go after women leaders in this country. We want to denounce it in the strongest words possible."},{"id":1623608,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1623608/?format=json","text_counter":102,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Sen. (Prof.) Kamar","speaker_title":"","speaker":null,"content":"My second point has to do with oversight, which is accelerating very well in this House. Committees have gone out to deal with oversight. I have been approached by a member, somebody from Isiolo County. He told me, “talk to your friend. Why is your friend trying to get the Governor to appear before very many committees in the House?” That is not the job of Sen. Dullo. It is the job of the chairpersons of the various committees. I told the same person, the messenger of whoever sent him to me, that it is not about Sen. Dullo, it is about the oversight role of the various committees. No Member, in this House can incite committees to question in a particular way. In fact, when we are dealing with governors, the host Senator appears as a friend of the committee because it is not just about the Governor of Isiolo County. There is this belief by governors that whenever they are invited to come before committees, they do so because the host Senator has said so. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, what I want say is on record and this can be found from the recordings of our Committee on Education. At one point, I was chairing our Committee on Education and a Governor came before us and said that he wants it to be very clear that he will never answer any question from his Senator. Fortunately or unfortunately, he spoke before I said anything. That is a record in this House. How can a governor come and dictate to a committee that they do not want their host Senators to talk? Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, we went viral on that one because I also responded. I said, listen to what you have told us before you repeat it, because I want you to repeat what you have said. He could not repeat it because he knew I was going to tell him that he either leaves or the Senator be given a chance. It was unbelievable to us, as a committee. We looked at him in shock because we did not know what transpired between him and his Senator, but it was very clear that he did not want the Senator to say anything. The Committee on Education will bring and update after 15th. This will be in our report when we bring the report of the governors that we have engaged."},{"id":1623609,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1623609/?format=json","text_counter":103,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Sen. (Prof.) Kamar","speaker_title":"","speaker":null,"content":"What is this that the governors are hiding to the extent that they want to fight with their Senators because of oversight? I see a lot of oversight issues that the Governor of Isiolo County is trying to hide. In this House, we have had occasions when committees invited the Governor of Isiolo County and he refused to appear before the House. Our committee has not invited him, but we will dare invite him because we intend to invite all the 47 governors. This House must to take its oversight role very seriously. We want the chairpersons of committees to be very clear about oversight. They have to state that oversight must be done, neutrally. The governor I am referring to decided to settle down when the Members said, we must have our friend, your host Senator here, and he will ask questions around education. They told him that they are not interested in what is going on between the two of them. That is when he listened. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."},{"id":1623610,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1623610/?format=json","text_counter":104,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Sen. (Prof.) Kamar","speaker_title":"","speaker":null,"content":"What are we talking about? We are talking about people who have decided to go rogue; governors who have refused to be accountable and transparent. I chaired the Committee on Devolution and Intergovernmental Relations in Naivasha when my Chairperson was not well. The things we heard about Isiolo County are horror. We have a county that needs attention. I hope we, the Committee on Devolution and Intergovernmental Relations, will be able to go. I hear that in that county, the governor goes there once in a month. We need to pay attention to the governors. Thank you."},{"id":1623611,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1623611/?format=json","text_counter":105,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Sen. Shakila Abdalla","speaker_title":"","speaker":null,"content":"Asante, Naibu Spika. Kesi ya Sen. Dullo imeongezeka katika list ya uhalifu unaoendelea kwa akina mama. Ni uhalifu ambao ni wa dhuluma wa kijinsia. Inafanya akina mama waogope kuingia katika siasa na kutoa maoni yao kikamilifu. Tunataka Seneti ichukue hatua kali kwa huyo Gavana. Huyo Gavana alimkashifu mheshimiwa mwenzake hadharani bila sababu. Sen. Dullo hajamkosea. Yeye alikuwa akifanya kazi wakati ambapo huyo Gavana aliitwa hapa kuulizwa maswali kuhusiana na jukumu lake la Kaunti ya Isiolo. Lakini kwa sababu anataka kuficha madhambi yake nyuma ya Mhe. Fatuma, anamdhulumu na kumkosea kwa matusi ambayo hayawezi kueleweka. Kwa hivyo, tunacondemn na kupinga dhuluma hizi za kijinsia zinazoendelea kwa akina mama, hususan wamama ambao wako katika mirengo ya kisiasa. Tunapinga na kukataa na tuamuaibisha huyo Gavana wa Kaunti ya Isiolo kwa mambo anayoyafanya. Asante."}]}