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"content": "claim to be an expert on something you do not know anything about. If we are to progress, we have to respect professional bodies. Disrespect for professional bodies is what will give this country the Dr. Mugos who essentially are nothing but pathetic quacks and masqueraders. As Members debate, it is also important to get a background into the things that we say here. I have heard it said that this Bill will give people skills. How does an Act of Parliament or a Bill for that matter give people skills? Skills are found in training institutions. An Act of Parliament is not a training institution. I have heard people who I used to think are very informed saying that this Bill will transform technologists into engineers. It cannot be true. The training curriculum for technologists and engineers is so different. It is the same way you are saying that you come here, make law which will transform nurses into doctors. It is not the work of Parliament to make laws to transform nurses into doctors. If we are going to help, I know that we need to regulate technicians and technologist but the way to do it is not through dishonesty. The way to do it is not through populism. We are not going to come here and make populist statements saying that we are helping our people and we are creating employment. How are you going to do that? Let us respect our professional bodies. Engineers and technologists go through entirely different training programmes. We are not going to stand here and start saying that we do not see the difference between Eng. Mahamud and somebody who has done carpentry or plumbing and drainage. What are we talking about? There is a big difference. You are not going to tell me that my friend, Hon. Kang’ata, is no different from a clerk whose work is to move files from one court to another. This is wrong. It is dishonest. I want to tell those people who are being passionate to be passionate but to please be on the side of facts. Yes, it is true that the work of technicians and technologists needs to be regulated but the way to do it is not through plagiarism. The way to do it is not through copying and pasting an existing law. This is what we are complaining about. I have no apologies to make for anybody who wants to say that I am arrogant. I am not arrogant. I am an engineer, as qualified as any engineer in this country. I am not arrogant. It is something that my good friend, Hon. (Eng.) Mahamud and I have earned. Let us create space for these people but let us not do it in a way that tries to trash the profession of engineering. Kenyan engineers are some of the most qualified engineers. I have heard people unknowingly saying here that Thika Road was constructed by Chinese engineers. They do not even know that the designer for that road is my good friend, Eng. Matu, a Kenyan. We should be celebrated. Why are you celebrating the Chinese? It was designed by Eng. Matu. When did he become a Chinese? I was with Eng. Matu yesterday and he does not look like a Chinese. People are coming here with very sentimental statements. Are you going to have somebody who has gone to the Nairobi Aviation College to design Thika road? Please, let us make laws that will move this country forward. Let us not make laws through sentimentalism, lies and by trying to abuse professions that have taken Kenya forward. My good friends and I, the engineers in this House, will be proposing amendments. I have told my good friend, Hon. Cecilia Ngetich to respect us. I will not purport to be a teacher because I am not trained to be a teacher. Respect us so that we help you to help these people, but not through lies and misinformation. I oppose."
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