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    "content": "clear that conditional grants must be disbursed to particular entities in county governments to be spent in that financial year. Madam Temporary Speaker, further, in the CEC’s explanation in No.3, the amount allocated to a Level 5 Hospital during 2014/2015 Financial Year was Kshs248,505,726.23; of which, a sum of Kshs247 million was transferred as scheduled in the table. It should be noted that the same facility had withheld funds to the tune of Kshs235 million. There is something wrong. How could the fund have withheld Kshs235 million at the close of 2014/2015 Financial Year? What would they have been using? It withheld it from whom? So, the figures do not make sense. In No.4, again, the CEC in charge of finance says the following: The amount allocated to a level 5 hospital in the Financial Year 2015/2016 which is what we have here was Kshs338 million; it is correct. At the close of the financial year, Kshs300 million had been released to the hospital which differs from the figures from the National Treasury. The balance that remained was due to late disbursement by the National Treasury. By the last week of the financial year, they had been processed. However, the county was frustrated by the Integrated Financial Management Information System (IFMIS) network during the year closing and delayed approval of the transfer of the funds. That explanation is not up to the mark. In other words, I would like to say the following:- Now that the County Government of Kisumu has received the letter from the National Treasury dated 20th June which they should have used to frame their reply; now that they have failed to frame the reply or at least address the letter from the National Treasury in giving their reply, to what extent is their reply valid or useful? It looks as if the CEC in charge of finance was on a fishing expedition to give the standard explanation they have been giving to Jaramogi Oginga Odinga Teaching and Referral Hospital all this while which is not in consonance with the National Treasury figures or explanations. I would like, therefore, this question to be referred to the National Treasury for it to get a response for their letter dated 20th June, 2016 and interrogate it in one week. The information is there so that this Senate can be satisfied that Jaramogi Oginga Odinga Teaching and Referral Hospital has been getting the conditional grants from the national Government and that the county government has not been diverting it to something else and failing to satisfy this House with a proper explanation."
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