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    "speaker_name": "Hon. Mulu",
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        "legal_name": "Benson Makali Mulu",
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    "content": "Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. (Inaudible) The lawyers have spoken and the medical people have spoken too. I think we appreciate the importance of this important document. From a financial perspective and following up on what Hon. Ntutu has said, we have two options as a Parliament. If we pass this Motion and agree that it is important to fund it, we could give conditional grants to counties the way we do with free maternity and funding for dispensaries. We can actually provide resources to counties as a Parliament. It will specifically be stated that the money is meant for the provision of free P3 Forms. I think that is another way we can do it. The other option is where the Members of County Assemblies (MCAs), at their own level, can introduce a Motion like this at the counties. If it is passed, the executive part of county governments can budget for this important aspect. That means it is doable from a financial perspective. I will categorise the challenges with P3 Forms in three parts. One of them is delay. There are very long delays in terms of the public getting this important document. The other thing is the element of cost which Hon. Mwinyi is focusing on. The other issue is insufficient information where the electorates are not informed in terms of how one goes about accessing this important document. As a Parliament, we need to think seriously on how we ensure that these three issues of delay, cost and insufficient information are addressed so that Kenyans can access this important document without many problems or challenges. Generally speaking, the challenge we face in accessing these important documents like P3 Form and others is corruption. You will realise that it is very difficult to access an ID card, birth certificate and police abstract in Kenya. What happens is that the officers who are charged with this responsibility always try to create opportunities for rent-seeking. That is what we need to address. How do we address this matter of people who want to make things very complicated that at the end of the day, as a Kenyan, you are forced to give bribes for you to access that service? As a Parliament, we need to come up with modalities and legal framework to make sure that Kenyans access these documents without much strain. I like the idea of automation where, if The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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