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    "id": 1002642,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Sen. Mutula Kilonzo Jnr.",
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    "speaker": {
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        "legal_name": "Mutula Kilonzo Jnr",
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    "content": "Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. We have sat patiently and listened to everybody. We are aware of the comments made by leaders from Kirinyaga County. We have seen videos from leaders of Kirinyaga County purporting that Members of the Senate are corruptible. For the first time, and I was hoping that you would make a comment about this, I found in your office a letter, a message or whatever it was. It was signed by Kirinyaga County leaders, seeking your direction that this House adopts a Plenary. Mr. Speaker, Sir, for those who do not know, and those who know, these are interested parties in a dispute. When you are an interested party in a dispute, you do not choose the judge or forum. In legal parlance, we call it forum shopping. On that ground alone, I cannot support the insistence that we must go the Kirinyaga way because we will confirm two things. One is that the Members of this Senate, without exception, are subject to corruption. Secondly, the Members of this Senate are subject to influence. Thirdly, the people of Kirinyaga’s views--- I am surprised because there is no format of seeking public participation when we are making Motions. Who gave these Members of this House a right to go and conduct public participation before the debate? How do we gauge who they spoke to and what they said? How do we know the ones who oppose and what they said? The argument---"
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