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    "id": 1003834,
    "url": "https://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1003834/?format=api",
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Sen. Omogeni",
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    "speaker": {
        "id": 13219,
        "legal_name": "Erick Okong'o Mogeni",
        "slug": "erick-okongo-mogeni"
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    "content": "If he has any grievance or a basis in law that can demonstrate in any court of law that this land where these estates have been built, belongs to Kenya Forest Service, let him follow the laid down procedure. Let him file his claim with the NLC and parties will be given a right to be heard, then a determination can be made. Otherwise, we are going to make title deeds in this country to be pieces of paper. There are people who have mortgaged their homes in those estates. How are banks going to have confidence in our title deeds if we can allow a situation where a Cabinet Secretary wakes up one day and declares over six estates to be areas covered by forest, while we know that there are Kenyans who own title deeds in those estates? That is not the way to run a country, where we have the rule of law and a Constitution that protects the sanctity of titles. This is something that all law students are taught in Land Law class; that there must be sanctity of a title deed. If we allow this kind of situation to prevail, we are going to place ourselves where we will never allow Kenyans value in title deeds. There will come a time when you will not walk to any bank to pass over your title to the bank as security for loans. That is not the way to conduct business. I hope that the Committee that will be seized of this matter will go to the root of it. Let those who have titles show that they have. Some are innocent purchasers without any notice. They did a transaction from a willing seller to willing buyer. You cannot condemn such Kenyans and say that you want to repossess their land. I support this Statement."
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