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    "id": 1009202,
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    "speaker_name": "Sen. Sakaja",
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        "legal_name": "Johnson Arthur Sakaja",
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    "content": "Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker. This is a discussion that we have had in the SBC, and we agreed that there is need for this Committee to have some more time to wind up. I want to point out two things, first is that the depth of the mess in the MES is more vividly visible because of COVID-19. I chair the Ad Hoc Committee on COVId-19, we have gone around counties where we have received reports. We cannot have a situation where the national Government has been spending money on MES for years. Counties are charged more than Kshs200 million. They were being charged Kshs90 million, but it went up to Kshs200 million, yet we have 27 counties without a single ICU facility. We need to know where this money has been going to. We need answers. I support that extension. Secondly, I have heard Sen. Omogeni raising the issue of implementation. After this, I assure you that we will not ask for any extension again. We work hand in hand with the substantive committees such that once we have dealt with an issue at a preliminary stage, we hand it over to the Standing Committee of Health or the Standing Committee on Finance and Budget Committee such that they do not start from the scratch after six months, or after we are done. This is because that is where we get the problem. In the maize issue, for example, if you were dealing with it for a long time and then you suddenly bombarded the Committee with everything, they may have been able to have the same institutional memory or thoughts on the issues that you are handing over to them. I would encourage this Ad Hoc Committee to continue and to carry along the substantive committees as you deal with this. I am sure that some Members are in both the Ad Hoc Committee and the Standing Committees, including CPAIC, not just the Standing Committee of Health. You can give them in small bits and doses such that by the time your mandate is over, they are not starting from scratch. I know one of the issues is that one of the witnesses says he cannot travel due to COVID-19. Just summon them online because our Standing Orders allow for that. We The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate."
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