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    "speaker_name": "Kikuyu, JP",
    "speaker_title": "Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah",
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    "content": " Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I also rise to support this Report by the Departmental Committee on Defence. Looking at the Agreement – I must thank you, Hon. Speaker, because of your timely guidance on Tuesday, when I sought to rise on a point of Order – I was actually seeking your indulgence so that you may allow the Members to read and appreciate. If you listen to the Leader of the Majority Party, it was quite clear that there was movement from the 1995 Agreement and the 2016 Agreement that is now before us. Hon. Speaker, let me start by saying that if you look at this Agreement – now that we have had the opportunity to read and understand it – one of the things I appreciate about it is that just like any other lease agreement – because they are leasing land and space in the sea – when you lease even for your own rental income businesses, agreements are not cast in stone. Therefore, when you enter into a 15-year agreement, it cannot be that the amount of money you pay will be fixed for 15 years. You will appreciate that the 2016 Agreement has a clause within the sections of the Agreement which allows for the money that is payable to be reviewed every five years to the tune of US$ 50,000. That is a good thing. Secondly, the Agreement itself, unlike the 1995 Agreement, is not cast in stone. There is a midterm review where the Italian and Kenyan Governments can sit and review the terms of the Agreement. Therefore, some of the issues that were of great concern to Members in the 11th Parliament have been addressed by this new Agreement. For instance, there were issues raised by Hon. Baya to do with development work in Ngomeni and the surrounding areas. Article 8 of the Agreement stipulates the prerogatives and obligations of the Italian Government, some of which include undertaking training programmes for Kenyan nationals in aerospace science, space science technology and research to promote development projects for the community in Ngomeni area. Such things are measurable. I appreciate what you have just said in relation to what the Member for Funyula said. I do not know whether the Chair of the Departmental Committee on Defence and Foreign Relations is here but there are Members of the Committee who are. It is a challenge to Members who sit on that Committee. It is upon this House as the one charged with the oversight responsibility not to wait for the midterm after seven years. It may be too long. Check after a year or two whether the Italian Government is training Kenyans in aerospace science. Are they offering scholarships to our The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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