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    "id": 1010451,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Suba North, ODM",
    "speaker_title": "Hon. (Ms.) Odhiambo-Mabona",
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        "legal_name": "Millie Grace Akoth Odhiambo Mabona",
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    "content": "primarily above the Constitution. Therefore, if you have an issue of conflict of interest that goes against the law, then the issue of privacy must fall aside. There were issues of misleading information, fraud, forgery, and blatant impunity in this thing. As a country, if we are serious in dealing with corruption, then we must support this Report. I know there are some Members who have said that the issue of personal responsibility is amorphous. I am now doing my Third Term and we have passed many Reports with the issue of personal responsibility. This would, therefore, mean that the investigating authorities, should they find that there is money lost, do not make it a Government business for it to pay that money. If it is Government paying that money, then Hon. Millie Odhiambo, who did not do this, will pay through her taxes. Let the culprit pay directly for where you have gone wrong. I think if we take very stern action on issues of corruption, then the country will forge ahead. I am also speaking firmly because the persons affected most with issues of corruption are women. That is because we are not represented. The one-third representation does not apply to issues of corruption. I am not saying we are not there. Some of us are there, but we are not one- third yet. I am not saying corruption is good and we do not want women to be represented, but where there is no fairness, the people who stand to suffer the most are women. For that reason, and because I support strongly the women agenda, especially women entrepreneurs to get into Access to Government Procurement Opportunities (AGPO) and others... I have noticed that even when we have AGPO where women should benefit, men go and register companies with the names of their mothers. They are the ones who do the work and benefit. For that reason, there is need for even higher probity than the one that we have set. I want to congratulate the Committee. I agree with you on your amendment to Clause 1 and 2 because it has been overtaken by events. I wish they had even used stronger language with the National Treasury that you could see was dilly-dallying on the issue of rules and regulations. They have to wait for the Committee to bring the reports and that is when they pass rules and regulations. Where have they been all this while? Why have they been sleeping? Hon Speaker we need …"
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