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    "id": 1013632,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Sen. Halake",
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    "speaker": {
        "id": 13184,
        "legal_name": "Abshiro Soka Halake",
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    "content": "This House has to look for a different ways of dealing with boundary related disputes. Even if this Petition is channeled to a different Committee of the Senate, we must think of a different way of dealing with this issue. What usually happens is that the Committee will summon the Ministry of Lands and Physical Planning, the National Land Commission (NLC), and consider all the provisions in law and commissions. Everyone will just ping-pong between the different place. The Ministry will point the Committee to NLC while the NLC will point the Committee to the Ministry and the ping-pong will continue. This House has to look for ways in which we can do things differently so that we do not disappoint the citizens who have petitioned us. One of the things that Article 188 of the Constitution states is that a Commission should be set up by Parliament and that two-thirds of the House should vote for it. I am not that we want to go that way. The County Boundaries Bill, 2017 that was done by Sen. Mutula Kilonzo Jnr. was meant to address all these issues in a more comprehensive manner, but is unfortunate that the Bill was not passed on the National Assembly because it was classified as a money Bill. Whether the Bill by Sen. Mutula Kilonzo Jnr. is a money Bill or not, the Speakers of the National Assembly and the Senate need to sit down and devise a way in which we can deal with land issues. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, those of us who come from community land areas, we are very worried. You, Mr. Temporary Speaker come from Samburu County so you know the issue that face community land areas. Those of us who are from jurisdictions where community land is the main tenure of land, we are a worried lot. Boundaries as concerns the Community Land Act can be changed through gazettement. For example, when the Government wanted to allocate the Kenya Defence Forces (KDF) land in our county, all they had to do is degazzette the land from community land. Is gazettement a legitimate way of taking away land from communities? I am sure this Petition is personal to people who come from jurisdiction where land is community land. We should make sure that certain mechanisms are put in place to ensure that boundaries are secured. Otherwise, pastoralists’ and community land will be taken away by the Government, or other entities though a gazette notice. I am for the idea of getting better ways of dealing with the issues of boundaries and land that is different from what we have been doing. We should consider the provision of Article 188 of the Constitution outside the Bill that was sponsored by Sen. Mutula Kilonzo Jnr. We should get pointer on how to do things differently, including setting up a parliamentary commission that may consider the issue of boundaries and land disputes. I thank you."
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