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    "speaker_name": "Sen. Olekina",
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        "legal_name": "Ledama Olekina",
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    "content": "from all the others from Level One, Two, Three, Four, and Five whose structures are already clear That is unless we can give counties conditional grants where we sit down and talk to the national Treasury when it comes to the issue of the County Allocation of Revenue Act and Division of Revenue Act (DORA). We should be very clear and say we have got Kshs47 billion, which Kshs1 billion is for every county to fund these community health workers. This country will not afford that. Madam Temporary Speaker, let us be realistic. We have had a big challenge. I want this Bill to make sense. As we go like today, Members of the Committee on Health, whom I happen to be one of them are in Mombasa. They are going through the public participation matrix to understand what did those stakeholders who participated and gave their views in terms of this Bill. What were their objections or pros and cons? What were their contributions? What did they want changed so that we ensure this Bill sees the light of the day? This is so that it does not just become just another piece of legislation that is there and it becomes impossible to operationalize it. Madam Temporary Speaker, I sit in the County Public Accounts and Investments Committee. Every time a governor appears there, the first question we ask is: How much of your budget have you given to the health department? Most governors would say between 30 per cent and 40 per cent. Now without coming up with additional funds, we want to take more money again to these counties. Now say for each county health is important and gets 50 per cent of your budget. What happened to all the other services? It is imperative that we become pragmatic and realistic when we propose very good things. For them to make sense, we must be pragmatic. This House is now in limbo somewhat because of the two third gender rule. The other day, I was having a good discussion with my dear, Sen. Farhiya. I said this issue of gender has completely been defined differently now. It is not the traditional man and woman that we knew. It now comes in into the issue of where it is a social construct. You say I view myself more as a man or as a woman. In fact, if you look at the population census, we had a lot of intersex in this country. Things are changing. Let us not just push things which becomes difficult to ensure that they can be implemented. This is because then we will be wasting our time. Madam Temporary Speaker, I summarize by saying the following, for us to make an informed decision in this House and for this Bill not to be killed in the “Lower House”, we must involve the PBO. Secondly, before we conclude debate on this Bill, it will be important for all the 67 Members and particularly the 47 delegations which will be voting for this Bill to read the Committee Report and understand what the challenges are. This is because we have got procedures. This is why earlier on even in the House Business Committee (HBC) we said it would be important that before a Bill is moved, we have the Committee report and go through it."
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