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"content": "consideration of whether a matter concerns counties or not is a matter they take to a committee in the National Assembly without reference to the Speaker. Mr. Speaker, Sir, according to the proposal, which if the parties accept is going to be filed in court - a consent order - I need not try to elaborate the difference between a court ruling and a consent order. A consent order is like a contract between one party and another. That is why in a consent order, the court does not actually write as a verdict. The parties sign the order before it is entered as an order of the court. In that consent order, the Speaker of the National Assembly is admitting that Article 110 of the Constitution is obligatory. He was saying that because we waste a lot of money in the other House discussing a Bill, when they have discussed it, then it comes to you for concurrence--- Mr. Speaker, Sir, the decision is that before any Bill is read for the first time - before it actually reaches the House - this is because the House considers a Bill when it is read for the First Time. He is saying and is agreeing with us that, that concurrence should take place before the Bill is tabled. You know how we have had that debate. There is a matrix that the legal department was told to prepare in which the progress of a Bill before it is tabled and it comes to you and goes to the Speaker of the National Assembly, they will want to see that all the stages have been passed through. That is including getting your concurrence before it is tabled. Mr. Speaker, Sir, I wish I had that consent order with me. Sen. Omogeni, I want to thank you because in the initial consent order that came from the National Assembly, Sen. Omogeni was the first person to say that we cannot have that consent order. The second one is on the requirement to amend Standing Orders. This is because Standing Orders of the National Assembly do not require that there should be concurrence. It requires that the matter is taken to the Committee first. Then, it is the Committee which decides what is a matter concerning counties. Mr. Speaker, Sir, the other third issue, which I think is a development--- We have gotten this courtesy of the Speaker of the National Assembly. He is saying that there are a lot of Bills that are pending in the other House on a lame excuse that they are money Bills. He has looked at a lot of legislations in the United States, where money bills go to both Houses. He is thinking that for whatever reason, or whatever it is worth, there are only two Bills that he thinks should not come to the Senate because they are specifically provided for. Those are the appropriations Act---. However, he is saying all other Bills, including money Bills--- In fact, we are trying to get a framework of how to ensure then what is defined as a money Bill could be piloted through both Houses. Mr. Speaker, Sir, what happens in the National Assembly is that at the end of the Bill they say, ‘this is a money Bill.’ On that basis alone, the Bill will not be discussed. We have agreed that we find a basis of ensuring that money Bills actually come to the Senate. The third issue that I think is also critically important, which is coming up, is on the question of the definition of what a money Bill is. Right now, it is the National Assembly. In fact, if you read the judgment in the Supreme Court, the one that Sen."
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