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    "speaker_name": "Ruaraka, ODM",
    "speaker_title": "Hon. TJ Kajwang’",
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        "legal_name": "Tom Joseph Kajwang'",
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    "content": " Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Hon. Ndindi Nyoro and I are former members of PIC. Of course, you know that Hon. Ndindi Nyoro is a backbencher. Now I have been given the task to join PIC to see if we can add value to it. I just want to make two points. One, I want to appreciate the Chair and the Committee for being very hard against people who have been cited for corruption and people who have not done what they are supposed to do in various sectors. These gentlemen are from the Minority side of the House, but there is this thing called the Handshake which has been touted for too long. People think that there is handshake in corruption or that if you are a member of the Minority side and you are in the Handshake, then you should shy away from your oversight duty under Article 95 of the Constitution. You can see that Members from the Minority side, who are deeply in the Handshake, have come out very clearly and have said things which are anti-government authorities. That is how it should be. If there is something wrong, we will say it. We are here as Parliament under Article 95 of the Constitution. Handshake is another matter which we engage in when we leave the Chambers. So, I want to congratulate you. And I want to tell you that I am joining you. And you will see a lot of energy. If there is anything wrong, we will say it on the Floor of the House. We will also put it in reports and we will make sure that it is implemented. Two, legal disputes. Lawyers are making money with Chief Executive Officers (CEO) and legal departments out of disputes. They create disputes and arbitrations so that people can make legal fees and CEOs can make money. I like what His Excellency the President said the other day. I saw a circular in which he said disputes between government entities should all be withdrawn from the courts and taken to arbitration. I would like to see corporations reviewing their dispute portfolio. You find that a very small matter goes to the Court of Appeal and the Supreme Court, so that a dispute of a few thousand shillings becomes one of millions of shillings just because of legal fees and interests. And the time taken to pay a contractual dispute is 10 or so years. By the end of the day when you pay it with interest, you pay billions of shillings instead of the thousands that were involved. The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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