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    "speaker_name": "Garissa Township, JP",
    "speaker_title": "Hon. Aden Duale",
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    "content": " Hon. Speaker, let me first start with my first engagement as a Member of PAC this morning because I can now speak from experience. Hon. Speaker, you were the Chairman of PIC during the 8th or 9th Parliament, if I am not wrong. In PAC, you have the Auditor General’s documents, management replies from the accounting officers, and the analysis done by the fiscal analyst of the Budget Office of Parliament. So, you are actually dealing with a set of documents to make sure that the people of Kenya do not lose money in all the three arms of Government; money that this House appropriates. This morning I was asking the Chairman, Hon. Opiyo Wandayi, together with another Member, what would happen if an accounting officer is on the hot seat and he feels the heat. All that he needs to do, in a virtual sitting, is to say that the internet is down and then disappear from the screen in the middle of the questions. And when you ask questions, he may seek to consult and then disappear. So, I asked the Chairman of PAC how we can handle such a situation. Secondly and more fundamentally, PAC and PIC handle very sensitive and confidential information that ought to come out clearly when those committees table their respective reports. You have already heard in the media that people are hacking the online education system and parents are having a problem. Imagine your children are online learning and then in the middle of it certain evil people bring in pornography and other things. So, information can filter in and also pilferage of confidential information. We saw our colleagues, the counterpart of PAC in the Senate, using the small dining to interrogate governors. However, they have not indicted even one since the advent of devolution, which is very sad. I have been here and I know, PAC has indicted many people, and some of them have gone to jail. I saw the County Public and Investments Committee (CPAIC) being chaired by the father of a classmate of mine. That Committee was using the small"
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