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    "content": "Hon. Members, let us not debate this now. I can see the Chair of the Public Investments Committee wants to say something and I am sure another chair of another committee will want to say something. It will then become the business of the afternoon yet there is business for which the Order Paper has been drawn. This was not part of the business of the day on the Order Paper. This was a request made by Hon. Wandayi. If you remember my Communication of 15th July, it indicated that we proceed with virtual meetings as far as it is practical. Physical meetings with the observance of appropriate social distancing will be held subject to express permission from myself. Because many of you speak some form of English, I am sure that should be sufficient. Is that not it? This is so that we do not again have too many of you saying that we are meeting in the same limited space. The spaces where you can observe appropriate social distancing could either be here in the Chamber, the Mini Chamber of County Hall or the small Dining Room which Hon. Duale mentioned. I do not know how big the small Dining Room is to accommodate many Members. With appropriate arrangements and as need arises, it is possible to continue observing the Ministry of Health protocols particularly on social distancing where necessary and appropriate. The need must arise and must be stated. I agree with the Member of Nyando that there is no committee that does not examine documents but when it comes to the issues of what has been stated by the Auditor-General which could be in dispute by some other person, it could become so contentious that there may be need for you to physically look at the various documents that may be availed. For the time being, the guidelines remain but the audit committees are encouraged that where the need arises, they should make a request and it shall be considered on the basis of the need. Let us not say that there will never be any physical sittings. That is not what was contained in my statement. It is not that there will never be any physical sittings. They will be there but while observing the necessary protocols. I suspect that that may not be a decision to be made by the Liaison Committee, Hon. Kimunya, because the Liaison Committee will then also have to come to me. It is fair that we make this clarification now so that the audit committees particularly can then take advantage of that window where necessary. Hon. Wandayi, Hon. Abdulswamad, Hon. Kathuri and Hon. Chepkut and other chairs of such like audit committees should make the necessary applications or requests. They should do it in the normal way through the Director of Committees. I am sure that we will deal administratively with those circumstances. I appreciate that it has been very challenging sometimes. I am sure Hon. John Mbadi recalls that we had some challenges with a Member who"
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