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"content": " Mr. Speaker, Sir, if I may be allowed, I stand under Standing Order 105 and move that the debate be now adjourned. Reporting positively on this matter, because I have heard the discussions that have been going on between us informally, at least there is some consensus that is developing. The way I understand consensus is that there is no Senator who wishes to see any county losing any money. Generally, there is consensus on that issue. However, we still do not have sufficient consensus on the other conditions that will fully constitute the basis upon which revenue will be allocated under the Constitution. Normally, a debate about resources is very divisive. I am pleading with the House that the trajectory, which this discussion is now taking, may be with us for generations to come. I think that we would have the authority and integrity of the Senate protected and safeguarded if we did not rush to a decision, when there is an opportunity to close the loopholes where there is no general agreement. I remember, and Sen. Wetangula is the one who was advising me on this, that the issue of division of revenue among counties, the first bite on this matter was in the National Assembly before the Senate was elected. The National Assembly had the powers of the Senate at that time because there was no Senate. At that time, it took quite a number of meetings on this single issue, to sit and reason together and come up with a solution that was acceptable to most of the Senators. In the second resolution that was made, similarly, I think we went to Naivasha, and those who were here would remember. We took four days discussing this issue. When we left Naivasha, there was no Sen. Orengo’s or Sen. Murkomen’s Motion, because he was there. It was a decision that we reached together as the Senate. Mr. Speaker, Sir, I plead with you because what I am seeing, and when we look at the way it has been portrayed how this allocation may go, we are making the same mistake that was made during the colonial period. We are making the same mistake when Sessional Paper No.10 was discussed in the National Assembly. That Sessional Paper No.10, Prof. Mazrui described it as neither African nor socialist because it was saying that resources should go where there is development already, and we do not want to repeat that. I am begging, and I have spoken to many Members in this House for the last one week. I had a session with Sen. Haji in the last one hour. Together, we can continue to talk until we have a position that is acceptable to most Senators. We should not be afraid that our integrity may be lost because we are seen to be dithering. A lot of decisions that have changed the world have taken quite a bit of time. Even at Serena Hotel, we took quite a bit of time. The discussions that came after the wars took a lot of time. Therefore, when some people say that our integrity will be undermined and as soon as we make a decision, the debate will be out there; that people disagreed along these lines, I think that is not the right thing to do. I want to thank Sen. Wetangula because he is the one who came with this proposal, so that all the amendments that are before the Senate, including Sen. Olekina’s, Sen. (Dr.) Ali’s, Sen. Githiomi’s and Sen. Sakaja’s amendments, will be discussed fully The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate."
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