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    "id": 1028867,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Sen. (Eng.) Hargura",
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        "legal_name": "Godana Hargura",
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    "content": "Madam Deputy Speaker, I thank you for giving me the opportunity to support the Speaker’s Communication regarding the recent court case. I thank all the Senators because it was a joint decision of the Senate to go to court on this issue. I thank our able Senior Counsels, Sen. Orengo and Sen. Omogeni, as well as Sen. Mutula Kilonzo Jnr. for representing the Senate pro bono and making sure that the position of the Senate is not eroded through the back door by the National Assembly, which is trying to do away with our legislation making mandate by introducing their own interpretation of how to determine whether or not a Bill concerns counties. I thank the judges for making it very clear that the National Assembly cannot use their Standing Orders to circumvent a provision in the Constitution. In the last Senate, we had a similar problem when the Division of Revenue Bill became an issue. We went to the Supreme Court to seek an advisory opinion on that matter, which clearly stated that almost all matters concern counties. Unfortunately, the National Assembly has been using the same interpretation of the law to make sure that some Bills do not come to this House. Initially, it was matters not concerning counties when it was advised that all matters concerning counties now became money Bills to the extent that the last time I heard that there was a mediation between the two Houses in determining what are these money Bills, the National Assembly went as far as saying that any legislation that creates a position that attracts remuneration is a money Bill. Basically, you cannot improve on legislation because when you have to improve on service delivery, sometimes it requires creating an office. We have even created the Office of the County Attorney. Maybe, that in the interpretation of the National The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate."
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