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    "id": 1030324,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Sen. Sakaja",
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    "speaker": {
        "id": 13131,
        "legal_name": "Johnson Arthur Sakaja",
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    "content": "In addition, we have asked for certain audits to be done. We have asked for a forensic audit on the scheme operations by RBA from its inception, to look at World Bank grants funds that were given to the scheme to kick start its operation, the rent money that the scheme has been collecting and its usage since its inception and the debt owed to the scheme including by the Kenya Railways Corporation. I am from there and we have just launched the Nairobi Commuters Railway which is good. We also want to know the status of Rahimtulla Towers in Upper Hill which sits on the land of KR scheme. In regards to the assets owned by the scheme, we want to know the status of that land. On this, they will report to us within two months with details of those audits. Mr. Speaker, Sir, we have also asked for a review of the structure and composition of the Board of trustees, so as to ensure compliance with Regulation 8 of the Occupational Retirement Benefits Schemes Regulations and that any existing or any potential conflicts of interests are resolved. Mr. Speaker, Sir, we have noted that some of the membership of the Board might have a potential conflict of interest as we move along. We have also asked the Auditor-General to conduct - different from what the Retirement Benefits Authority (RBA) is doing - an independent special audit on the management of this scheme and report to us within three months including but not limited to the areas I have mentioned up above on the World Bank, the rent, the debts and the status of certain properties. Mr. Speaker, Sir, we are very specific on the above issues. We do not want one report. We want a report from RBA as a regulator and an independent report from the Auditor-General such that the Auditor-General should not give us a rehashing of the RBA report. The Auditor-General should do her own report and RBA also give us their own report. Mr. Speaker, Sir, as I move to finish, RBA ensures that all public determined pension schemes--- I have mentioned just a few including Posta and many others. Members should know. They are all these people who have worked so hard for this country. They are in their twilight or sunset. They are in their old age. They are suffering yet they gave so much service to our country. They cannot even afford---The other day, they were meeting to contribute money for one of them who had passed on. They could not even afford Kshs200,000 yet they have given years of service; not just in this Government national schemes, but also county schemes. That is the next place we are looking at, on LAPFUND and LAPTRUST. Mr. Speaker, Sir, the National Treasury - I want to thank the Chief Administrative Secretary (CAS), hon. Gaichuhie and CAS, hon. Obure. I know we have issues when CASs come sometimes, but those two must be singled out. CAS, hon. Chris Obure, who is a Senator and CAS, hon. Gaichuhie who was in the National Assembly have been very versatile. Even in the course of a meeting, instead of saying we will come back to you in 14 days, they pick up a phone, they make that call and they give us information. That why is we support the introduction of Ministers from Parliament because politicians understand these issues and can deal with issues as they happen. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate."
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